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Post by JoshiQ on Jun 21, 2013 22:07:43 GMT -5
We just hit the date where Jay Youngblood passed away. Sad because I fully intended on using him at some point. I think I tried to bring him in around '82, but he turned me down. And now he'll never show up.
So, got me thinking, anybody else that people are surprised haven't made an appearance yet? Or that can't because they've already retired? Ryan, any one you wanted to use in the '60s or '70s that never let you hire them?
George Steele is a guy that I'm surprised didn't get more time in the '60s-'70s. But he did show up later.
Bob Armstrong would be another. He showed up at the LA Supershow in '81, and is finally getting seen in the WWA. Surprised he wasn't around earlier when he was in his prime though.
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 22, 2013 0:24:36 GMT -5
Bob Armstrong is high on that list for sure.
I wanted to use Mike DiBiase but he died before I had the chance.
There's a couple guys from the 60s/70s I would have used, but wouldn't really say I'm upset about not using. Guys like Tarzan Tyler, Pepper Gomez, Fritz Von Erich, etc.
A bit surprised Tenryu hasn't appeared yet (though I think you and I have both tried, Josh). Hillybilly Jim is another. The biggest I can think of that I would definitely make use of but just never picked up is Kevin Sullivan. His devil worship gimmick could be a lot of fun.
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Post by vertigo on Jun 22, 2013 8:11:36 GMT -5
I didn't realize Kevin Sullivan had started his devil worshiping gimmick by 1984. Also never knew he was wrestling in the 70's! He's old! That gimmick is right up my booking alley.
Another guy who goes hand in hand with Sullivan would be The Missing Link.
"Iron" Mike Sharpe. Tiger Chung Lee. Fabulous Moolah.
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Post by cardsflyinhigh on Jun 23, 2013 2:43:03 GMT -5
Yeah come on guys, without Kevin Sullivan, who's gonna lead the Dungeon of Doom in, or without Hillbilly Jim, who's going to lead the Godwins to the tag titles and save them in slop matches in 10 years
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 23, 2013 12:56:44 GMT -5
I, for one, look forward to seeing Kevin Sullivan in the GCWverse with his devil worship gimmick and the Dungeon of Doom. Especially since the latter will probably be far less stupid here than it was IRL. Seriously.
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 23, 2013 13:27:04 GMT -5
I, for one, look forward to seeing Kevin Sullivan in the GCWverse with his devil worship gimmick and the Dungeon of Doom. Especially since the latter will probably be far less stupid here than it was IRL. Seriously. That's actually one of the downsides to fantasy booking. Yes, any of us could probably book the Dungeon of Doom with far less silliness. But, that's some of the best Wrestlecrap of all-time. Wrestlecrap is fun, and it's just hard to book in a circuit. We all have the advantage of knowing too much about wrestling, so we go, "Oh, that's just stupid" and don't do it. So we might get angles that don't work out how we want them, but rarely are they just pure silly, stupid nonsense. In fact, in all the years I've been a part of this community, I haven't liked every circuit I've read, but I can't think of anything someone booked that was Wrestlecrap that wasn't booked as such on purpose.* *This excludes anything SuperstarJimiC has ever done. |
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Post by vertigo on Jun 23, 2013 18:33:51 GMT -5
I feel like there are some Wrestlecrap things that just have to make it into the Universe. Something like Gobbledy Gooker could slip in. The Taskmaster falling through the wall should totally happen, and it wouldn't necessarily have to be Tugboat under the mask. Take a step back, and how silly of a gimmick is Tugboat? This Universe is going to reach the early 90's at some point and we won't be able to dodge all the weird stuff. We'll just have to book it differently and hope it turns out. We might come up with our own Wrestlecrap moments.
There's no rule that says I can't put a lab coat on Ron Garvin, call him The Mad Scientist, have him carry beakers to the ring, and pour potions into the mouths of his opponents which makes them think they're wild animals. Brilliant!
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 23, 2013 19:26:36 GMT -5
There's no rule that says I can't put a lab coat on Ron Garvin, call him The Mad Scientist, have him carry beakers to the ring, and pour potions into the mouths of his opponents which makes them think they're wild animals. Brilliant! ....You won't do it. |
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Post by JoshiQ on Jun 23, 2013 21:10:31 GMT -5
Stuff like the Mountaineers could be considered WrestleCrap. But I probably won't write it that way. I could have them bring a pig to the ring with them that they call their sister "Misty"...but I probably won't. Because I'd get yelled at as soon as I put them over the Dirty Cowboys or the Dream Team.
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Post by cardsflyinhigh on Jun 23, 2013 23:26:36 GMT -5
The closest I can think of to being WrestleCrap from what I've read in your universe might be the Fabulous One's promo videos before their debut in GCW. Not saying they were horrible by any stretch, but those seemed much like the real life vignettes that some might lump in the wrestlecrap category. A lot of stuff that happened in the 80s we can look back on today as Wrestlecrap. It fit the time period, but didnt age well.
I was kinda wondering how you guys planned on approaching things when the 90s roll around if you'd use the cartoon gimmicks that era was famous for. T.L. Hopper, Duke the Dumpster Drosee, the Goon, etc...
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 24, 2013 0:09:18 GMT -5
Stuff like the Mountaineers could be considered WrestleCrap. But I probably won't write it that way. I could have them bring a pig to the ring with them that they call their sister "Misty"...but I probably won't. Because I'd get yelled at as soon as I put them over the Dirty Cowboys or the Dream Team. Ha... you're scared that I'll yell at you. Seriously, I could get behind Misty. Maybe not as their sister, but it would work. But you shouldn't worry about people yelling at you. Hell, rey yelled at me for months about not pulling the trigger on Stan Hansen as World champ.  |
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 24, 2013 0:16:02 GMT -5
The closest I can think of to being WrestleCrap from what I've read in your universe might be the Fabulous One's promo videos before their debut in GCW. Not saying they were horrible by any stretch, but those seemed much like the real life vignettes that some might lump in the wrestlecrap category. A lot of stuff that happened in the 80s we can look back on today as Wrestlecrap. It fit the time period, but didnt age well. I was kinda wondering how you guys planned on approaching things when the 90s roll around if you'd use the cartoon gimmicks that era was famous for. T.L. Hopper, Duke the Dumpster Drosee, the Goon, etc... That really is probably what we should be doing - asking you guys what you thought would be considered WrestleCrap. I guess there's two types of Wrestlecrap we have to consider here - 1) the kind we do on purpose to recreate a real life event, i.e. if the Shockmaster falls through a wall in this universe, and 2) something we thought was really cool and then ended up being just horrible. As for the gimmicks, I don't want to speak for Josh and Russ, but I think with this universe, we're trying to stick to the time periods, more or less. There's some noticeable changes based on circumstances and personal booking preferences, but I know I want to stick with reality as close as possible. It's why we have no triple threat matches or you haven't seen a random Hell in a Cell. The early 90s were extremely cartoony, so the universe is going to reflect that. It might not be as obvious here as it was in real life, but for the Attitude Era to be awesome, you kind of need the cartoony Hogan/New Generation era before it. |
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Post by rey619 on Jun 24, 2013 3:36:09 GMT -5
Hell, rey yelled at me for months about not pulling the trigger on Stan Hansen as World champ. Hey, you deserved it  I usually just keep on yelling until I get what I want. Same with the way I've been yelling at Josh for starting a Hogan vs Orndorrf feud. |
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 25, 2013 13:18:29 GMT -5
That's actually one of the downsides to fantasy booking. Yes, any of us could probably book the Dungeon of Doom with far less silliness. But, that's some of the best Wrestlecrap of all-time. Some yes, some no. Cartoonish heels conspiring against Hulkamania? Sure. Ed Leslie in face paint spouting gibberish? Sure. But I hope we never see The Yeti - or if we do it is El Gigante in a furry costume rather than a guy wrapped in bandages. (Did WCW not know the difference between a yeti and a mummy? Seriously WTF???) What I'm trying to say is there is a difference between goofy gimmicks and things that are just plain stupid. Something like Gobbledy Gooker could slip in. The Taskmaster falling through the wall should totally happen, and it wouldn't necessarily have to be Tugboat under the mask. Take a step back, and how silly of a gimmick is Tugboat? This Universe is going to reach the early 90's at some point and we won't be able to dodge all the weird stuff. We'll just have to book it differently and hope it turns out. We might come up with our own Wrestlecrap moments. There's no rule that says I can't put a lab coat on Ron Garvin, call him The Mad Scientist, have him carry beakers to the ring, and pour potions into the mouths of his opponents which makes them think they're wild animals. Brilliant! I heartily approve of The Mad Scientist. And I wouldn't mind seeing the Gooker if the payoff is different. Mystery egg opens to reveal a giant chicken? Fine. But the payoff was the chicken dancing with Mean Gene. If Vader shows up to Vader Bomb the chicken because he's a bastard like that or the chicken ambushes a wrestler and is revealed to be Wrestler A having snuck into the costume to ambush wrestler B (ala Pete Rose dressed as the San Diego Chicken) then it would be fine. Stuff like the Mountaineers could be considered WrestleCrap. Yes. Yes they are. |
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Post by JoshiQ on Jun 27, 2013 9:04:38 GMT -5
But if the Gooker was revealed to be Eddie Gilbert so he could lay a vicious beating on a rival or if he gets utterly squashed by Bundy, doesn't that actually make it a pretty good angle? Thus losing most of its WrestleCrap quality.
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Post by mdale2k on Jun 27, 2013 13:23:20 GMT -5
I am waiting for the day when Someone someone from GCW invades NWF
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Post by JoshiQ on Jun 27, 2013 13:40:11 GMT -5
What do you think Larry Zbyszko's true reasoning for being there is?
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 27, 2013 14:04:40 GMT -5
I'm going to have to file a lawsuit against you if you keep implying Larry Zbyszko works for GCW and is invading. If Larry Z hadn't quit, he'd be GCW champion by now.
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Post by JoshiQ on Jan 22, 2014 20:41:38 GMT -5
Been watching some old school wrestling while waiting...
Brady Boone. Wow. What a guy that could have done more with his talent. Maybe he'll get a chance when he shows up?
Terry Gibbs. He was terrible. He'll probably he showing up before long as a jobber.
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Post by BeerGeek on Jan 23, 2014 0:25:52 GMT -5
I feel like there are some Wrestlecrap things that just have to make it into the Universe. Something like Gobbledy Gooker could slip in. The Taskmaster falling through the wall should totally happen, and it wouldn't necessarily have to be Tugboat under the mask. Take a step back, and how silly of a gimmick is Tugboat? This Universe is going to reach the early 90's at some point and we won't be able to dodge all the weird stuff. We'll just have to book it differently and hope it turns out. We might come up with our own Wrestlecrap moments. There's no rule that says I can't put a lab coat on Ron Garvin, call him The Mad Scientist, have him carry beakers to the ring, and pour potions into the mouths of his opponents which makes them think they're wild animals. Brilliant! I think you mean The Shockmaster. The Taskmaster was Kevin Sullivan's nickname after forming The Dungeon of Doom. |
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Post by vertigo on Jan 23, 2014 13:04:41 GMT -5
Yes, you're correct. I must have been subconsciously planning on having Kevin Sullivan smash through the wall and trip someday.
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I usually just keep on yelling until I get what I want. Same with the way I've been yelling at Josh for starting a Hogan vs Orndorrf feud. 