Created A Faction... For some faction action

[KWOAOA]

So a little while ago I ordered a WWE boxset off ebay it showed up yesterday it's about The Kliq so I decided to create a faction based on the guys in it.. HHH, HBK, Nash, Hall, Xpac. Which I did and wanted to give them a creative name as at first I will admit it's the Kliq but I have every intention of expanding it, not sure how far but I could see it being a mix of nWo and DX but not everyone in both but a few members who stood out to me and kind of have them run crazy over the promotion. I may make a second faction since but I haven't decided since the two that stand out in my mind are the two this one is based upon. But I guess I could do one based on New Blood... Actually that sounds like a not bad idea but for that to work I have to wait for the talent enhancement wizard to be able to create anything more than enhancement talent as I would actually do it with new and unknown/unheard of people.. Or I may do it with people based on newer wrestlers I honestly haven't decided since I have seen a few who stand out in my mind and I'm sure they would make for quite the faction... But right now the first faction I gave them the name "Outlaw Union" it was apart of a longer name. The longer name I came up with was "Alliance Of Outlaws" even though it sounded alright I felt like the name meant that it had to be a huge faction kinda like the invasion angle in wwf/e. But then I put it on the back burner for the time being and a longer version came to me but I didn't like it as it sounded like I was trying too hard and truly trying to mix up names. I think I had a few like:
Outlaw Union Order
Generation Outlaw Union
Where it was mixing nWo and DX with it, but even though that was the idea behind it all I knew I wanted to make the name original so outlaw union came to mind. With having a website I felt I wanted to create a graphic for them

[LillaThrilla]

I wouldn't think outlaws are usually organized enough to have a union. I think The Outlaws is simple and effective. Or maybe The Degenerate Outlaws. I also think HHH and HBK fit in The Wolfpac name.

[KWOAOA]

True, however I was more so going with that they were joined for a common purpose. Not so much in a political sense.

Besides times are different now, even outlaws can unionize lol

[jacklarkin]

Had me running to cue up some tunes for inspiration

Bad Company by Bad Company
Company of Strangers by Bad Company
Cry for the Bad Man by Lynyrd Skynyrd

I think Hall and Nash were the epitome of this. Certain guys have it and certain don't. Bret Hart and Kurt Angle for instance don't have it, and neither does Stone Cold who is more of a lone wolf. It's all about having the right guys to add to the mix.

I think what you have is fine. Outlaw United. Outlaw Company. It's all good.

[KWOAOA]

I don't think I would use an actual song. I have the ability to make my own beats. So I think I would attempt that if I was to do something, but thanks for the suggestions.

Can't help but agree certain guys do and certain guys don't. If everyone had it then back during the attitude era when WWF/e had faction action we would have had a whole lot more factions. I do agree Bret doesn't have it even though they put him as a leader of the Hart Foundation but at the same time they did the same thing with Kurt I believe he was the leader or close to it of MEM (Main Event Mafia). Yes Stone Cold has and always will be a lone wolf, but I think at times you need that because faction vs faction while entertaining. Faction vs Lone Wolf is also entertaining and not because usually the lone wolf gets his ass handed to him on countless occasions unless the match is completely fair. But it's interesting to see who they look for as allies and whose one to turn ones back on the lone wolf making the faction stronger.. Which then brings up Kurt Angle again as he did that once that I can recall during the Invasion. At this time I haven't put much thought into who else would join, I may do the wrestler on my roster whom I given the name Acyd Rain whose based on Masahiro Chono since he was apart of the nWo but the japan version of it. I've always been fascinated by the Japanese wrestlers as the odd time we would get the fight network (quickly let me say I live in Canada, I only say that because I don't know if the fight network exists cross border) anyways fight network is owned by anthem who also owns Impact... I don't know why I said that but anyways when we got free previews of the fight network it would show japanese wrestling and it reminded me of watching wcw because the wrestlers were completely different as were the moves. But of course the odd time I would see people in the Japanese promotion that I would know from elsewhere like Albert who I believe went under the name Lord Tensai in Japan.
I had a few Japanese wrestlers through my promotion I had two stars that won the tag titles who I gave the tag name to Rising Sun naming the team after what the Japanese flag is called. Then during a sweep I let one of them go by accident. I may recreate Rising Sun and use the random wrestler generator to create some completely unknown people for it. So the Rising Sun could be something that battles with Outlaw Union. Or maybe I'll come up with something new for that name, haven't decided.
Yeah sorry for rambling on, ideas began to swoop in as I started to type.

[jacklarkin]

Good stuff.

Yeah, I think Kurt Angle and Bret Hart can be leaders of groups for sure, just not a DX, Wolfpack, NWO style of "cool". They are more skilled, lead by the fact they are the best. Problem with them is that they care too much about how others see them.  That's what makes Nash and Hall so "cool" in that sense, they are tough but they don't care. They are leaders but not authoritarian, they just do what they do and others follow because they want to be like them. Shawn Michaels is somewhat in between.
 

[jacklarkin]

Not an original idea so I wouldnt expect you to use it, just having fun, but in all these faction driven feds you end up with the "joke" factions, like Latino World Order, The Oddities, BWO, etc.

I can see a "European Union" opposed to the Outlaw Union, as a parody of jobber level guys who reimagine themselves as stereotypes of Europe; pretty much the Al Snow gimmick that was too short lived.

[KWOAOA]

I'm not going to say no to the jobber/joke faction. On a side note before I dive into this, some of the jobber/joke factions were kind of cool to a certain degree. I always liked the Oddities, perhaps it's because I've always considered myself kind of odd. That and I'll admit I'm a fan of ICP too. I also always liked the luchadores I think that's why one of the top guys in my fed Nico "The Messiah" Voight is a masked luchadore on top of that for an added mark of coolness he's a Canadian luchadore. But I like the luchadores for two major reasons, one the masks. For some reason I've always liked the masked wrestlers perhaps it's just adds to the persona no matter who they are many masked wrestlers luchadores or not they have a little extra to the character no matter if it's Kane or Mortis. I don't think I would consider them a jobber/joke faction but at the sametime it might be but Ravens Flock. As they never really did much, although they had some cool storylines.

I think secretly deep down I'm bringing in wrestlers based on real people and just renaming them for the time being, I see me going back to Random Wrestler Generator and slowly have those guys take back over as I prefer the level of fiction over based on real people. As the level of fiction you can basically do anything you want but having things based on real people or having real people in my mind and gut I keep saying to myself "nope I can't do that, cause I can't see that actually happening"... Like for example... ummm lets see if I can pull something off the top of my head real quick here.. Okay got a few I'll toss out hopefully they work for what I mean:

Mortis becoming a member of Ministry Of Darkness
Judas Messias being a third member of Brothers Of Destruction
Tajiri being apart of the nWo
Dolph Ziggler taking over as the head of DX to replace Shawn and someone to later replace HHH

Hopefully you get what I mean, while some of those ideas may seem cool on paper like perhaps #1 and #2 since lets face it for the Ministry Of Darkness they had a few jobbers.. Sadly I later created a joke faction called MiniZtry Of Light and the head of it was named Mazteryouz (pronounced masteryous) who was based on XPW Messiah I even had him have two followers named Druyd and Decyple .. No the second one seems wrong... Cause I had another wrestler named Decyple who wasn't apart of MiniZtry Of Light (MOL) .. Okay I only had Druyd as apart of the MOL who would basically follow Mazteryouz to hell and back like he was a true follower of a cult. I was going to get someone else to join them but it never did end up happening, they even earned a few tag title shots but never did amount to anything. I even gave Mazteryouz a few contender matches for world title shots but that never amounted to anything either.
Anyways back to the point about #1 & #2 while they seem like cool ideas I don't think I would be able to get myself to do it for a few reasons for example for the whole Judas thing he seems way too extreme for that pairing if you base him on his battles with Abyss since that's all I really have to go on because I haven't seen him do much else other than his stint in Impact. As for #1 he could fit because the gimmick of Mortis certainly would fit in with Ministry Of Darkness, but I think that's just about it.
It's like the idea of Tajiri being apart of nWo I guess he could have been in retrospect part of nWo japan as he would fit the japanese style but his character didn't seem like it would be a good fit knowing how they used Tajiri.

Yet again I go rambling lol... But I have so many ideas for my e-fed/circuit they just flow at times.

[jacklarkin]

Yeah, I had a thread about created wrestlers but I think we are in the minority. I love 'em but they are hard to do properly so they are not just rip-off's of real wrestlers. A couple things I do, since comparisons are on the one hand inevitable, but on the other hand they also help a reader understand the character, is to create a bit of a mish-mash. So for example, I have a great, legendary wrestler in my world known as Vendetta. I picture him physically like Booker T (with a touch of Papa Shango), but he has more the persona of Crow-Sting, but not quite, as he is not silent, so a bit of Raven. Throwing that all in the blender helps me situate him. Now I'm not saying they get the best of everything...like he has the size of Big Show, can work a match like Bret Hart, and has the charisma of Shawn Michaels...sometimes it's actually the opposite. He's a slower version of...works like Nick Bockwinkel but is smaller...etc. That depends on if your fed is supposed to be local or national. Another thing I do is to base them on a real person I know, and then reimagine them as a wrestler. I will even play with their name to be similar, or a nickname based on something actual, or something like change their last name to Mustang because their favorite thing in the world was their Ford Mustang. Other times just a name from a random generator can just spark something. I think I have come up with real "separable" wrestler personas by seeing names like Jody Christmas or Al Collins for example. Remember even real world wrestlers are always compared to others to put them into perspective to someone who is not familiar with them.

[KWOAOA]

It's hard not to draw inspiration from what one watches like WWE/ECW/WCW/Impact or anything else. Since if it wasn't for those you, I or anyone else on the forum wouldn't be here as that sort of thing has clearly sparked some sort of interest and fascination.

I can't help but agree doing 100% fictional wrestlers is difficult, no doubt about that. Where as if you have a wrestler based on someone that persons image always comes to mind when you book a match and decide what should you do with them. I got looking at my backup drive and I came across Rising Sun in one of my old backups so I brought them a bunch of other fictional wrestlers forward. I even had a stable called Brotherhood Of The Apocalypse they've won the tag titles a few times but they are the first stable that mixes fictional with real based on fiction.. As it has two fictional guys and I do mean 100% pure fictional.. Storm Gill & Mika Fatialofa but they also have a fictional based on real whose the head of it named Elmer based on Bray Wyatt. Also similar to you I also use a random name generator since so many names exist sometimes getting that third party help sparks more ideas and perhaps better ideas than you have had before. But both Storm & Mika's name came from the random wrestler generator. I later brought in Erick Rowan and Luke Harper and built the Wyatt Family but they didn't perform well so they disbanded and Rowan & Harper went on to join back up as a tag team similar to what they did in WWE. Even as a tag team they seem kinda useless.

I've also created a few "separable" wrestlers just random goofiness that comes to mind that they never did see an event that seen the light of day since before I would always test things out in not so much dark matches but dark events in a secondary circuit/e-fed to see how things would go.. Being a fan of XPW back in the day they had a wrestler by the name of Homeless Jimmy... I decided to make a mock of him and give him a tag partner the names they used was "Homeless Hank & Fucked Up Frank" If anything they truly were jobbers.

At times I have two circuits on the go because the ideas flow out of me, in fact I use to have a all womens circuit because some of the characters I seen really sparked that interest but I wanted to keep things separated from the main. I may bring it back I recently came across it again, may give it a full on site as well something else to play with. To take my mind off the main circuit.