Post by LillaThrilla on May 17, 2011 20:03:57 GMT -5
Unlike most of my circuits, this is a 100% real wrestler circuit. The primary reason for this circuit (besides being the only time period where I regularly watched wrestling) is rebooking Starrcade '97 and the implications thereof: changing how Bret Hart debuted in WCW and how the Sting-Hogan match ended. To help set these things up, this circuit departs from real life beginning with the Nitro on November 24, 1997: the night after the World War III PPV, with the titular event won by Scott Hall. At that point, Sting-Hogan was already scheduled for Starrcade's main event and it post-Montreal so everyone knows Bret Hart is coming to WCW soon.
I'm really looking forward to this coming back. I loved what you were doing with it for the most part, and I want to see the nWo angle finally end definitively.
Thanks, other Josh.
Besides being distracted by things like work and geocaching, one of the things delaying this circuit is having an endgame in mind for part of the nWo but I've been struggling to decide quite how I want to get from here to there.
Post by LillaThrilla on May 22, 2011 9:38:38 GMT -5
WCW is going to be delayed a bit as my copy of TNM it's on just crashed. I was cleaning up the moves database and it blew up for some reason. Fortunately, I have an export of the entire database to hopefully recover things.
Post by LillaThrilla on May 22, 2011 15:43:47 GMT -5
Spent much more time than I wanted to today troubleshooting TNM and rebuilding what I lost. But it's done at last!
WCW Monday Nitro February 23, 1998 Announcers: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, and Larry Zybysko.
[Dark Match] Bobby Walker pinned Magnum Tokyo with the Quittin' Time in 0:13:52. Rating: *** 1/4
[Dark Match] High Voltage (Kenny Kaos and Robbie Rage) defeated Los Villanos (Villano IV and Villano V) when Kaos pinned Villano V with the Electric Drop in 0:07:05. Rating: ** 1/4
The Nitro Girls dance in the ring (yes, they're still around) then the camera pans over to the announcers who welcome everyone to a three hour Nitro. They have some big news. As announced last week, Nitro will now be a three hour show every week! Because WCW just has too much action to pack into two hours. But the big breaking news: Bill Goldberg has suffered a serious knee injury and will be out for at least 6 months! The Streak is on hold at 27-0. Rumors say that the injury was suffered not in a match but in an attack by assailants unknown. Did someone see Goldberg as a threat and try to end his career? Could it be the work of the nWo?
Lets take you back to last night at Superbrawl where Sting retained the WCW World Heavyweight Title. We get a clip show of the main event and Savage's botched interference. The nWo has not arrived yet so let's go to our first match.
Rey Mysterio Jr., Chavo Guerrero Jr. and Lizmark Jr. defeated Psychosis, La Parka and Hector Garza when Chavo Jr. pinned Garza with the Tornado DDT in 0:16:19. Rating: *** 1/4
The nWo limo has arrived. Except there are two limos. Hogan gets out of the first, followed by Eric Bischoff, Buff Bagwell, and Scott Norton. The second limo has Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Randy Savage, Elizabeth, Konnan, and Louie Spicolli. The announcers speculate the absence of Curt Hennig and The Disciple are due to the events of Superbrawl. They don't look to be in a good mood as they head into the arena.
After a commercial break, the nWo theme hits and they come out to the ring. Hogan takes the mic first and admits the nWo has a problem: some members aren't getting the job done. He blames Savage for screwing up last night at Superbrawl and costing him "his" title. Savage is ready to fight, but Bischoff tries to play peacemaker. Nash reminds Hogan there's one person in this ring who got the job done at Superbrawl and holds up the US Title. Hall says his neck is healed and he's going to cash in his World War III win at Uncensored. Survey time: who thinks Hall can bring the nWo World Heavyweight Title back to the family? Hall declares survey says another win for THIS GUY. Hogan thinks Hall can do it, but Hogan again says he will be the one to get HIS title back. Savage says everyone is talking the talk but nobody is walking the walk. The Macho Man declares he will do tonight what Hogan couldn't do: beat Bret Hart! Hogan and Savage go nose to nose as the rest of the nWo has to keep things under control, except for Hall and Nash who just stand back and watch.
Before his match, Finlay declares himself tougher than Goldberg.
Meng defeated Fit Finlay when Fit Finlay passed out in the Tongan Death Grip in 0:11:44. Rating: ** 1/4 (Meng won the WCW TV Title.)
Brutal brawl between Meng and Finlay. Finlay refused to submit and the match only ended when he was choked unconcious.
Alex Wright comes out with Debra. He berates her in a mix of English and German, telling her she's worthless and blaming her for him losing the TV Title. He fires her. Debra pleads, but Wright just curses at her in German. Debra leaves in tears as Ernest Miller's music hits. He tries to comfort Debra, but she pushes by him. Miller tells Wright that's no way to treat a beautiful woman. Wright tells him off as well. The Cat says thems fighting words.
Ernest Miller pinned Alex Wright with the Feliner in 0:07:17. Rating: * 3/4
Chris Jericho comes out with the Cruiserweight Title to gloat about his "decisive" victory over Eddie Guerrero at Superbrawl. Jericho knows what the people want and that is to see him proudly wear the Cruiserweight Title around his waist. As he works the crowd, he has his back to the entrance ramp which means he doesn't see Eddie Guerrero run down. Guerrero drops Jericho with a vicious low blow and puts the boots to him. He takes the Title off Jericho's waist and Frog Splashes him. Guerrero takes the Cruiserweight Title with him when he leaves!
Lex Luger and The Giant defeated The nWo (Konnan and Louie Spicolli) when Luger defeated Spicolli by disqualification in 0:10:40. Rating: 3/4* [Kevin Nash and Scott Hall interfered against The Giant.]
Luger put Spicolli in the Torture Rack, triggering an run-in by The Outsiders. Hall sprays Giant in the face with something to blind him. With The Giant out, Luger takes a 4-on-1 beating and gets powerbombed. DDP runs out and the nWo deciedes to bail, their damage done. Page gets a mic. He says he may have lost the US Title, but promises to make Nash and Hall feel the bang.
The Flock is an ringside, but Kidman is absent. Gene Okerlund wants a word with Raven but he refuses to speak, instead just sitting there sulking. He gets heckled by the rest of The Flock and leaves. Juventud Guerrera comes out for a match the announcers say is supposed to be with Raven, but Raven throws Riggs over the railing and points to the ring.
Juventud Guerrera pinned Riggs with the Juvy Driver in 0:19:35. Rating: **** 1/4 [Sick Boy and Lodi interfered against Juventud Guerrera.]
Juvi fended off some Flock interference. The match over, Raven sent the rest of The Flock to attack but remained in his seat. Juvi kept anyone from getting into the ring until Reese came in from behind. Juvi tried to hit him with a couple moves, but couldn't bring him down and got left laid out in the ring by a two-handed choke slam.
Rick Steiner comes out. He talks about the great history of the Steiner Brothers and how close he and his brother have been all their lives. But in the last few months Scott has changed physically and mentally. Everyone can see it. He wants Scott to see the error of his ways. Scott Steiner comes out to retort. He says for years people have been telling him to ditch his brother and become a singles wrestler. He could have been a World Champion by now, but he was gullible enough to stick by his brother. Rick was always the weak link in the Steiner Brothers and his only mistake was taking so long to ditch his brother. He challenges Rick to a match at Uncensored to prove it. Rick says he doesn't want to fight his brother, but he can't see any alternative. How should he explain this to their mother? Scott suggests telling their mother that she raised one son who sucks and one child is a Superstar.
Chris Adams pinned Disco Inferno with the Superkick in 0:08:10. Rating: *** 1/4
The Hart Foundation are in the back with Gene Okerlund. Bret accepts Savage's challenge of a match tonight. He believes Sting will retain, but wants a one-on-one title shot with the winner. He belives it's a match the fans deserve to see.
Harlem Heat come out to provide commentary on the next match, displaying their newly won Tag Team Titles.
Number-One-Contenders-Match Public Enemy (Rocco Rock and Johnny Grunge) defeated Yuji Nagata and Kaz Hayashi when Rocco Rock defeated Kaz by disqualification in 0:05:44. Rating: ** [Sonny Onoo and Mortis interfered against Rocco Rock.]
The match has no clear winner as James Vandenberg sends Mortis and Wrath to destroy everybody. Harlem Heat leave the announce table and get involved, but it just turns into a big brawl with everyone fighting everyone else.
Diamond Dallas Page defeated Buff Bagwell by disqualification in 0:08:10. Rating: 1/2* [Scott Norton interfered against Diamond Dallas Page.]
DDP hit the Diamond Cutter on Bagwell and that drew in Scott Norton who had accompanied Bagwell to the ring.
[Main Event] Bret Hart pinned Randy Savage after an inside cradle in 0:14:58. Rating: *** 1/4
Big back and forth match. Savage was about to head up for his big elbowdrop when Hollywood Hogan started heading for the ring. This distraction allowed Bret to roll Savage up for the pin.
Savage is livid. He attacks Bret after the match. Referee Nick Patrick attempts to stop him and gets clocked. Hogan gets in the ring, but Savage gets in his face and doesn't want his help. Davey Boy Smith and Neidhart head out, but the the rest of the nWo on the attack. Bret may have escaped Savage's anger, but the numbers are too great for everyone to escape. The cameras spot Sting in the rafters watching the beatdown of the Hart Foundation. The announcers call for him to help, but he just keeps watching. Finally, Chris Benoit, Dean Malenko, and Steve McMichael run down to better the odds as the show ends.
Post by LillaThrilla on May 22, 2011 16:39:10 GMT -5
WCW Saturday Night February 28, 1998 Announcers: Scott Hudson & Dusty Rhodes
Barry Darsow made Lenny Lane submit to the Barely Legal in 0:06:02. Rating: * 1/2
Rick Martel made Prince Iaukea submit to the Quebec Crab in 0:10:19. Rating: * 1/2
Dragon Kid and Ultimo Dragon defeated Damian and Ciclope when U. Dragon defeated Ciclope by disqualification in 0:05:05. Rating: ** 1/2
During the match the announcers talked about Dragon Kid having been trained by Ultimo Dragon before either of them were signed by WCW. Dragon Kid asked his mentor for some further tutelage and Ultimo Dragon agreed to team with him. DQ came when Ciclope got a chair and missed his intended target, hitting the referee instead.
Norman Smiley defeated Scott Putski when Putski passed out in the Norman Conquest in 0:08:47. Rating: *** 1/2
James Vandenberg led out Mortis and Wrath. He declared the old names for his charges outdated. He was a man of sinister mind directing sinister men of strength. They are strange and they are legion, but more importantly they all represent deadly sins. And more are to be seen.
The Deadly Sins (Mortis and Wrath) defeated The Armstrong Brothers (Scott Armstrong and Steve Armstrong) when Mortis pinned Scott Armstrong with the DOA in 0:10:31. Rating: ** 1/4
This was just a long squash for Mortis and Wrath. They continued to abuse the Armstrongs when their brother Brad ran out and caught Vandenberg by surprise. He locked a sleeperhold on Vandenberg and threatened to choke him out if he didn't call off the attack. Vandenberg relented and was released. As Brad Armstrong checked on his brothers, Vandenberg challenged all three brothers to meet them on Nitro.
Jim Neidhart pinned Craig Pittman with the Flying Shoulderblock in 0:13:59. Rating: -1/2*
Ray Traylor pinned Glacier after a spinebuster slam in 0:04:00. Rating: ** 3/4
Glacier had a simplified version of his old extravegant entrance, but it didn't help.
Chris Benoit and Dean Malenko defeated The Windham Brothers (Barry Windham and Kendall Windham) when Malenko made K. Windham submit to the Texas Cloverleaf in 0:16:25. Rating: * 1/2
Matches announced for Uncensored '98 PPV on March 23: WCW World Heavyweight Title: Sting (c) vs Scott Hall Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner
WCW News & Notes 3/1/98
Debra McMichael has been granted a release at her request for personal reasons. It is widely believed this is related to her real life divorce from Steve McMichael.
A former WWF star has been signed by WCW. Look for their debut in the near future.
Ric Flair missed Nitro this week recovering from the brutal cage match with Curt Hennig at Superbrawl. He is expected to be at the next Nitro and reportedly has something on his mind.
WCW had been considering adding another weekly show, tenatively called Thursday Thunder. At this time, WCW has chosen to expand Nitro to three hours and keep Saturday Night at two hours without adding an additional weekly show.
- That's not exactly the way to start out your return. Goldberg is already injured? Looks like things are going to take a far different turn than real WCW. I don't know if he has the fanfare that people will remember him when he returns.
- Pure and utter chaos with the nWo is what I like to see. Really looking forward to where this eventually leads. I have faith you will do a better job than Bischoff and Russo did.
- The glorius DQ finishes have returned! Wahoo!
- I actually hope that Reese gets a minor push. I always liked the guy.
- Ha! Loved Scott telling Rick what to say to their mother.
- You know, Hogan, you keep screwing up. Sad to see the Hart Foundation get beat down, but love the 3 Horsemen making the save.
- Ultimo Dragon and the Dragon Kid as a team is terrific.
- I'm a big fan of Saturday Night having a bunch of mid-card matches with the middle of the road talent.
- Armstrong Brothers in a feud? I like it! I was also a huge fan of Wrath back in the day. Hope he continues to have something to do.
News and Notes:
- Glad Debra is gone. She annoyed the crap out of me.
- A former WWF star? Bart Gunn? I always loved it when old WWF talent would randomly show up on Nitro.
- I wouldn't mind a third show as long as you can keep writing all of them. Maybe a show similar to Saturday Night since you have so much talent to use every week.
- That injury to Goldberg really sucks for you. Sorry to hear about it as I'm sure you are going to have to rebook quite a bit of stuff.
I'm a big fan of Saturday Night having a bunch of mid-card matches with the middle of the road talent.
While I do run some angles there, WCWSN often ends up being "who's not scheduled this week and what can I do with them?" It also serves as the proving ground for angles/wrestlers moving up to Nitro, which really I think is how it should be.
Good job. I'm going to enjoy reading this circuit. How are you doing the shows? Are you running 1 show = 1 contracted day? Or are you using the card multiplier?
Definitely using the Card Multiplier. During the first run, I was using it set to 2 shows (i.e. 1 week, excluding PPVs) = 1 contracted show. Right now, I've changed to 9 shows (4 weeks of Nitro & WCWSN plus a PPV i.e. about 1 month).
TNM7 doesn't really like rosters bigger than 30 and I suspect I would have a hell of a time getting people to renew contracts. Plus WCW had a pretty stable roster; if anything they tended to keep people around way longer than needed.
I should ask what Peter is doing with WWF94 since he runs a similar schedule (2 weekly TV shows + PPVs). Or for that matter: Josh, what have you done with your WCW92 and WWF92?
I think on WCW '92 I was using a 2 multiplier...with WWF I am using a 4. I figure that will give me two years for a 52 card contract(excluding special events and PPVs). If I get to a point where I'm doing monthly PPVs I might bump it to 5.
It seems to work out pretty well for me since I hire all of my main eventers to around 40-52 card contracts with the occasional 30 card. That way not all of them expire at the same time, and I'm not stuck in a major booking hole. The mid-carders I sign anywhere from a 10 card to a 52 card.
When they decide to resign with the company I usually rehire them at a 52 card contract because it will keep the staggered time period where I have 1-2 contracts expiring almost every couple of weeks, but never all at once.
Post by LillaThrilla on May 26, 2011 20:42:00 GMT -5
WCW Monday Nitro March 2, 1998 Announcers: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, and Larry Zybysko.
[Dark Match] High Voltage (Kenny Kaos and Robbie Rage) defeated Silver King and El Dandy when Kaos pinned Silver King with the Electric Drop in 0:12:23. Rating: *** 1/4
[Dark Match] Ernest Miller pinned Hammer with the Feliner in 0:14:25. Rating: -* 3/4 [Lodi interfered against Ernest Miller.]
The announcers welcome everyone to another three hours of Nitro. Meng won the TV Title last week, but Fit Finlay gets a rematch tonight. In out main event, Lex Luger and The Giant will face The Outsiders. And Ric Flair has a big announcement.
Flair's epic entrance music plays and he comes out in a suit. He says he has done great things in the past and runs down some of his accomplishments. But last year he made a mistake: he trusted Curt Hennig. Curt Hennig betrayed that trust, betrayed The Horsemen. Hennig did what nobody had done before: shattered The Horsemen. But then Hennig made a bigger mistake: he left Flair for dead. Flair could have had a team to back him up, but this was one thing he had to do himself. It was personal and at Superbrawl, the road to vengeance lead him and Curt Hennig into a steel cage and only The Nature Boy walked out. And now it's time to saddle up again: he's officially reforming The Horsemen right here right now! He wants Arn Anderson back, but he's seen the x-rays and the scars. He knows Arn wants to be in a ring again more than anything. But Flair couldn't look at himself in the mirror if he sent Arn home to his wife as a cripple and that's what he'd risk by ever wrestling again. Arn earned an eternal spot in The Horsemen and Flair thanks him from the bottom of his heart for his friendship and loyalty. He calls out the other two men in WCW who have already earned the right to be Horsemen: Chris Benoit and Steve McMichael. They each get their own entrance, coming out in suits and shaking hands with Flair. Flair says he could leave Arn's spot open forever, but as much of a tribute to Arn as that would be it would also be a disservice to a man who - without ever being asked - demonstrated the qualities to be a Horsemen. And for that, with Arn Anderson's blessing, Flair invites Dean Malenko to join The Horsemen. The Icemen cometh in a suit as well. Malenko shakes hands with everyone. He's always respected and admired The Horsemen and is honored to be part of them. Flair has one final thing to say: The Horsemen's first goal will be to ride right over the nWo!
Rey Mysterio Jr. pinned Magnum Tokyo with the Springboard Hurracanrana in 0:09:49. Rating: *** 1/2
The nWo is in the back with Gene Okerlund. Scott Hall calls him "Scheme Gene" because that joke never gets old. Curt Hennig and Rick Rude are back and they take credit for putting Arn Anderson out of WCW forever. Kevin Nash says the Horsemen may be back together, but their days of relevance are over: no matter the names, they are the past and the nWo is the future. Louie Spicolli even chimes in that he's got 1,001 moves which are better than Malenko's 1,000 holds. There's a couple crashing sounds in the background then the nWo locker room down swings open and out storms Hollywood Hogan. He aplogizes for airing dirty laundry, but he's had it with Randy Savage and wants him gone from the nWo because he can't get the job done. Savage storms out a moment later and says he wants Hogan gone from the nWo because he's failed. Hogan says he's in charge and he calls the shots because he made wrestling. Savage tells him he's nothing without the title and makes allusions to Hogan trying to steal Elizabeth from him a decade earlier. Hall declares the interview over, but closes with a warning that he'll get The Stinger.
Footage is shown from WCWSN of the setup for the next match: Armstrongs vs Vandenberg's team. Before the match, Brad Armstrong asked Vanenberg if he really believed that his freak show could sucessfully take on an entire generation of Armstrong family. James Vandenberg responded that the bravest men are fools if they believe they can vanquish sin. The Armstrongs dreams of justice will be crushed by the powers of death, wrath, and hate. The announcers wonder what Vandenberg is talking about - has he just gone crazy?
The Deadly Sins (Mortis, Rancor and Wrath) defeated The Armstrong Brothers (Brad Armstrong, Scott Armstrong and Steve Armstrong) when Rancor pinned B. Armstrong with the Fist Of Rage in 0:08:20. Rating: * 3/4
Vandenberg may be crazy, but he delivered on his promise of hate. The match was 3-on-2, giving the the Armstrongs a chance as they tagged frequently to keep a fresh man in the ring. Just when it seemed the Armstrongs might be at an advantage, the lights flickered and pulsing red light flashed in the arena. The Deadly Sins theme music started to play and out charged a man some fans might recognize as the former Crush in WWF. He hit the ring and Vandenberg's men proceeded to destroy the Armstrongs, including all hitting all their finishers. This culminated in the former Crush delievering a huge heart punch to Brad Armstrong and pinning him with a foot on the chest. With the match over, Vandenberg got a mic and introduced the newest member of the Deadly Sins: Rancor! He mocked the Armstrongs for thinking they had agreed to a handicap match; in fact, they agreed to a match against the Deadly Sins, with no specification on the number of wrestlers on each team. Vandenberg lead away his team in triumph, the Armstrongs all requiring help from referees and security to get back to the locker room.
Returning from a commercial, the cameras cut to the back where a brawl had broken out between Finlay and Meng. The announcers explained that the two were scheduled next in a rematch for the TV Title, but clearly they couldn't wait until they got to the ring! Meng seemed to have the advantage until Finlay managed to send him through a glass door! Finlay wasn't through. He practically dragged Meng to the ring, although the Tongan monster kept trying to fight him off. In the ring, Finlay demanded the bell be rang for their scheduled match.
Fit Finlay pinned Meng with the Tombstone Piledriver in 0:01:00. Rating: * (Fit Finlay won the WCW TV Title.)
It's no surprise Finlay was able to quickly finish off Meng thanks to their prematch fight. Finlay loudly declared to the camera he was the toughest SOB in WCW then left the ring in search of the TV Title championship belt. He found it upon arriving backstage, but in the hands of The Barbarian and aimed at his face! Jimmy Hart had seen what happened and got the rest of his First Family. Finlay had done his damage to Meng, but Barbarian, Hugh Morrus, and Jerry Flynn gave Finlay a beating in revenge. Even Meng staggered back from the ring in time to finish off the beatdown by choking Finlay on the floor. Security and referees finally intervened, having finished taking care of the Armstrongs from the beating they suffered in the previous segment. The two sides seperated, a dazed and battered Finlay shouted that he would fight them all!
Curt Hennig pinned Rick Martel with the Hennig Plex in 0:09:18. Rating: * [Rick Rude interfered against Rick Martel.]
Gene Okerlund is in the back with Harlem Heat. Okerlund points out that due to Mortis and Wrath disrupting last week's match, there is no clear number one contender for the tag titles. Booker says they are fighting champions so they're going to defend the Tag Titles tonight against Nagata and Hayashi tonight and next week against Public Enemy.
Juventud Guerrera defeated Reese by disqualification in 0:11:30. Rating: -* 1/2 [Hammer, Sick Boy and Lodi interfered against Juventud Guerrera.]
Juventud requested and recieved a match against Reese after the events of last week's Nitro. He had to contend with not only a much larger opponent, but intereference from The Flock as well, with Raven doing his usual skulking routine in his seat. The DQ finally came and just when it looked like Juvy was going to take a severe beating, he got unlikely aid: Raven being nailed in the head with a chair by someone who had snuck up on him through the crowd: BILLY KIDMAN! Kidman appeared fairly normal and clean, rather than the dirty long-haired grunge look he had since he joined The Flock. Kidman fled back through the crowd the way he arrived, while The Flock tended to their fallen leader. Juvy took the opportunity to escape to the locker room.
Harlem Heat (Stevie Ray and Booker T) defeated Kaz Hayashi and Yuji Nagata when Booker pinned Hayashi with the Axe Kick in 0:05:53. Rating: *** (Harlem Heat retained the WCW World Tag Team Titles.) [Sonny Onoo interfered against Stevie Ray.] [Sonny Onoo interfered against Booker T.]
Sonny Onoo got in the ring after the match and started yelling at Kaz Hayashi, telling Kaz that he was a disgrace. Kaz tried to argue in his defense, but Onoo nailed him with a martial arts kick then ordered Nagata to put Kaz in the Nagatalock.
DDP got the mic before his match and ran down the nWo. He says Kevin Nash will feel the bang at Uncensored one way or the other so it might as well be in a rematch for the US Title.
Diamond Dallas Page defeated Scott Norton by disqualification in 0:06:00. Rating: -* 1/2 [Buff Bagwell interfered against Diamond Dallas Page.]
Last week, DDP faced Bagwell and Norton interfered. This week, he faced Norton and Bagwell interfered. DDP took out Norton with a Diamond Cutter, but then fell victim to a Buff Blockbuster. Before the Vicious & Delicious could do further damage, The Horsemen ran down (in wrestling gear now, instead of suits) to chase them off.
Chris Jericho cut a promo before his match. He declared all the fans watching Monday Night Jericho want to see the Cruiserweight Title around his waist and demanded Eddie Guerrero return the title to him. When Guerrero came out, he taunted Jericho with said championship belt (which he stole last week on Nitro) before the match.
Scott Steiner and Chris Jericho and Rick Steiner and Eddie Guerrero battled to a double countout in 0:14:16. Rating: **
Nasty match with cheapshots and cheating by everyone except Rick Steiner. The match ended when the Steiners fought on the floor and paid no attention to the referee's count.
We get footage from last week's Nitro of Hall and Nash attacking Luger and Giant during a match to set up tonight's main event.
Lex Luger and The Giant defeated The Outsiders (Kevin Nash and Scott Hall) when Giant defeated Nash by disqualification in 0:09:16. Rating: -* 3/4 [Syxx interfered against The Giant.]
Syxx made his return to WCW, running down to the ring and nailing The Giant with a high flying dropkick. That triggered a general nWo run-in and a beatdown on Luger and Giant. Hogan and Savage both came out, but stayed away from each other. Sting rappelled from the ceiling to clear the ring, but while Hogan cowered and the rest of the nWo fell back, Savage alone decieded to charge the ring and go after Sting! He ducked a shot from the bat and tackled Sting into a corner. This brought the nWo back to the ring as Savage, Hall, and Nash got in shots in the corner on Sting. But then Hogan pushed his way through and tried to take the WCW World Title off Sting's waist. Sting got in a few shots on Hogan and shoved him back into the rest of the nWo, giving himself space to be lifted back to the rafters. This triggered another Hogan-Savage arguement, which was interrupted as The Horsemen came charging down to the ring. The Horsemen were briefly outnumbered until reenforcements arrived in the form of The Hart Foundation! The seven wrestlers cleared the ring of the nWo. As the nWo retreated, the Horsemen and the Foundation had a staredown in the middle of the ring as the show went off the air.
Post by LillaThrilla on May 26, 2011 21:10:51 GMT -5
WCW Saturday Night March 7, 1998 Announcers: Scott Hudson & Dusty Rhodes
Jim Duggan defeated Scott Putski by disqualification in 0:09:22. Rating: -1/4*
Putski grabbed Duggan's 2x4 and used it against him.
The Windham Brothers (Barry Windham and Kendall Windham) defeated Lenny Lane and Prince Iaukea when K. Windham pinned Iaukea with the Bulldog in 0:10:36. Rating: ** 1/2
Dragon Kid and Ultimo Dragon defeated Ciclope and Damien when U. Dragon made Damien submit to the Dragon Sleeper in 0:09:27. Rating: *** 3/4
Chris Adams pinned Lash LeRoux with the Superkick in 0:10:33. Rating: * 1/2
La Parka and Psychosis defeated Lizmark Jr. and Super Calo when Psychosis defeated Calo by countout in 0:10:51. Rating: ** 3/4
Davey Boy Smith defeated Craig Pittman by countout in 0:02:44. Rating: *
The Barbarian pinned Ray Traylor with the Kick of Fear in 0:14:42. Rating: *** 1/2
After the match, Fit Finlay stormed down looking for a fight, but the referee got between the two men and kept it a war of words. It sounded like Barbarian was yelling in Tongan and Finlay was yelling in Irish so neither of them could actually understand the other, but they were both clearly very angry about events on Nitro.
Steve McMichael pinned Glacier with the Mongo Spike in 0:07:12. Rating: -1/4*
After the match, Mongo flashed four fingers and reminded everyone the Horsemen are back to stay.
Matches announced for Uncensored '98 PPV on March 23: WCW World Heavyweight Title: Sting (c) vs Scott Hall WCW Cruiserweight Title: Chris Jericho (c) vs Eddie Guerrero Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner
Really liked the opening segment with Flair reforming the Horsemen. Since it's TNM I kind of wished that you brought Anderson back, but that's okay. Malenko is a good fit, and I really like this grouping of the Horsemen.
I hope the nWo kicks both Hogan and Savage out. What a bunch of whiners.
I like the idea for Rancor. The Deadly Sins is a fun group, hopefully they continue to be pushed. Using Crush for Rancor instead of the boring Brian Adams was a good idea, IMO.
This version of Finlay is a total badass. His feud with Meng makes me want to hide under the bed. They are both guys that would probably rip each other to shreds.
Clean cut Kidman!
Okay, Savage impressed me by not running away in fear of Sting. Hogan keeps looking like an idiot.
I like the Windham Brothers. Would be interested in seeing them make it to Nitro.
The Barbarian over Ray Traylor? That's almost an upset.
I miss Craig Pittman, I never felt he was used properly.
Post by tommybrownell on May 27, 2011 7:18:08 GMT -5
Well, Sting tended to carry the belt rather than wear it once he hit the Crow phase...and, uh, getting into a fight, it would seem to get into the way...which is why you tend to not see wrestlers wearing them into the middle of a fight...=)
Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 17, 2011 20:44:18 GMT -5
WCW Monday Nitro March 9, 1998
[Dark Match]: No-Countout-Match Chavo Guerrero Jr., Blitzkrieg and Rey Mysterio Jr. defeated Hector Garza, El Dandy and Silver King when Blitzkrieg pinned Silver King with the Stardust Press in 0:11:02. Rating: ** 1/2
[Dark Match] Alex Wright defeated Prince Iaukea by countout in 0:05:28. Rating: 1/2*
Announcers: Tony Schiavone, Mike Tenay, and Larry Zybysko.
We kick off Nitro with nWo music and out comes Randy Savage by himself and looking angry. He gets a mic and calls Hogan a washed up coward who cares about nothing but getting the World Heavyweight Title. He says Scott Hall can't beat Sting because he's afraid. Everybody's afraid of Sting...except Savage. Look into his eyes and you'll see no fear (as he takes off his sunglasses and stares into the camera). He wants two things: a match at Uncensored against Hogan and a match after Uncensored against Sting. When he beats Hogan, Hogan is kicked out of the nWo and when he beats Sting he'll be the World Heavyweight Champion. OH YEAH! Eric Bischoff comes out to try to calm Savage down, but Savage isn't buying it. He's not leaving until he's got a match with Hogan. He calls Bischoff a coward and toady; ever since he lost his front office power he's done nothing more meaningful than constantly kissing Hogan's ass. Bischoff says he'll get Hogan to agree to a match and when Hogan wins Savage will be kicked out of the nWo. And don't mess with Bischoff because he's got a black belt in karate. Savage slaps Bischoff around, who retaliates with a couple kicks. Savage catches Bischoff's leg on the last kick, drops him with a punch to the face, and piledrives him. He looks to be going up for his big elbowdrop, but out comes Hogan and The Disciple. Savage leaves the ring and grabs a chair, stopping them in their tracks. Hogan tries to bet off and the rest of the nWo comes out to seperate them. Hogan declares he'll see Savage at Uncensored then goes to check on Bischoff as we go to a commercial.
After the commercial, the announcers talk about the dissension in the nWo. Zybysko gloats at Bischoff finally getting what he deserves.
High Voltage (Kenny Kaos and Robbie Rage) defeated Ciclope and Damien when Rage pinned Ciclope with the Voltage Spike in 0:08:01. Rating: **
Billy Kidman came out and got a mic. He wants to explain what happened to him. Like many young people, he was going through tough times and feeling concerned about the future. He thought an experienced wrestler like Raven could give him guidance and advice. But Raven doesn't want to help anyone. He wants to surround himself with misery to make himself feel better and takes pleasure in the suffering of others. As for certain oddities of Kidman's behavior while with The Flock he suggests people look up the symptoms of certain addictions. But someone got him help and now he's clean and thinking clearly again. He calls for The Flock (who are sitting in their usual front row seats) to see through Raven's lies and abandon him for their own good. Nobody in The Flock responds at first. Then Lodi climbs over the barrier...and holds up a sign proclaiming "Kidman sucks!"
Juventud Guerrera, Billy Kidman and Ernest Miller defeated The Flock (Hammer, Reese and Sick Boy) when Kidman defeated Hammer by disqualification in 0:09:41. Rating: 1/2* [Lodi interfered against Billy Kidman.]
Kidman isn't the only one to have issues with The Flock recently. Of course, Raven sent his lackeys. Kidman had Hammer down and went up for the Shooting Star Press, but Lodi pushed him off the turnbuckle to draw the DQ. That lead to the rest of The Flock running in. Juvi and Miller got sent out of the ring. Raven actually left his seat for a change, catching Kidman by surprise and planting him with the Evenflow DDT. Then Raven got a mic. Kneeling over Kidman's prone form, he proceded to lecture him about emptiness. Raven is a beacon for lost souls and the rest of the Flock will never betray him like Kidman has. Raven spent months trying to take away Kidman's pain; now Kidman will feel Raven's pain.
After a commercial break, Ric Flair's epic intro music brings out The Horsemen. Flair says everyone saw what happened last week on Nitro. He calls out The Hart Foundation. Bret, Davey Boy, and Anvil come out. Flair wants to know how good Bret Hart thinks he is. Hart says he's the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be. Flair says that's an impressive billing and one day he's going to have to prove it in the ring against The Nature Boy. WCW is the house that Ric Flair and The Horsemen built. But he's man enough to admit things have changed lately. Could it be the turn of the tide? It seems like it started when The Hart Foundation arrived in WCW. Flair wants an official alliance, Horsemen and Harts to run the New World Order out of WCW. Flair offers a handshake. Before Bret can accept, Sting rappels down from the rafters. Sting unhooks himself and wants a mic! The announcers point out Sting hasn't spoken in WCW in over a year.
Sting has some questions. Who never turned their back on WCW even though most of WCW thought him a traitor? Who fought alone against the nWo? Who saved people from the nWo countless times? Who beat Hogan to bring the World Heavyweight Title back to WCW? Who does the nWo fear? The answer to all those questions: HIM. He'd be thrilled to see WCW coming together to finally beat the nWo, but he knows this isn't really about unity against the nWo. It's really about the WCW World Heavyweight Title, which Sting holds high for all to see. Sting's done the hard work and beaten Hogan. Now Flair and Hart want to forget what he's done, finish the work he started, and put the title around their waists. They're hungry for the gold and Sting can see it in their eyes. So be it: if they're going to turn their backs on him, he's going to turn his back on them. "Let me leave you with a warning, Bret: you can't trust Ric Flair. I know that better than anyone." And with that, Sting drops the mic and leaves through the crowd. Everyone in the ring stands around in confused silence for a moment before Ric Flair offers a handshake again to Bret Hart. Bret considers it and finally shakes hands. The rest of the Horsemen and Harts exchanged handshakes as well. The announcers aren't sure what to make of all this: they're excited for the Horsemen-Harts alliance, but concerned about Sting's comments.
Jerry Flynn and Brad Armstrong battled to a no contest in 0:02:16. Rating: *** [Scott Norton interfered against Brad Armstrong.] [Scott Norton interfered against Jerry Flynn.]
This match barely got started with Scott Norton made a surprise appearance to obliterate both men. He gets a mic and says he didn't have a match tonight so he made his own. Just because Hogan and Savage are having some problems doesn't mean the nWo is weak; he just showed how they can still wreck havoc on WCW. Hugh Morrus comes out and he's not in his usual laughing mood. Jimmy Hart meets him in the aisle and tries to stop him having seen what just happened to his other charge (Flynn). Norton taunts him so Morrus hits the ring anyway, but Norton unloads on him too and gives him a seemingly effortless powerbomb in the middle of the ring. The announcers are surprised by this, with Tenay reminding us that Hugh Morrus is at least 350 lbs. Damage done, Norton storms to the back and Jimmy Hart makes sure to keep out of his way.
Eddie Guerrero - still in possession of the Cruiserweight Title even though Chris Jericho is technically champion - cut a promo on Jericho, making fun of his whining and firing off some crude insults in Spanish.
Glacier defeated Eddie Guerrero by disqualification in 0:07:35. Rating: * 1/2 [Chris Jericho interfered against Eddie Guerrero.]
Jericho tried to sneak down to the ring and recover his Cruiserweight Title during the match, but Guerrero spotted him. The two got into a tug of war over the Title outside the ring. When Glacier came over, he got nailed in the face by the Title to draw the DQ. Jericho finally won the tug of war, but promptly started a cocky celebration. Guerrero grabbed a chair and drilled Jericho, allowing him to easily regain possession of the championship belt. When Jericho recovered, he promptly threw a tauntrum.
Rancor pinned Rick Martel with the Fist Of Rage in 0:05:39. Rating: -* 1/4
The former Crush makes his singles debut tonight with the rest of the Deadly Syns at ringside. Martel never had a chance, taking a beating during the match and an even bigger beating after the match when Mortis and Wrath joined in. Vandenberg's men are on a rampage that seems unstoppable.
Scott Steiner and Yuji Nagata defeated Kaz Hayashi and Rick Steiner when S. Steiner made Kaz submit to the Steiner Recliner in 0:08:50. Rating: *** 1/4 [Sonny Onoo interfered against Kaz Hayashi.]
Scott Steiner told Rick he's going to make him tap out at Uncensored too, but Rick just told him good luck with that and walked off rather than get into another fight. As the Steiners left, Sonny Onoo taunted Hayashi after the match, calling him a disgrace to Japan and so pathetic Onoo's managerial efforts were wasted on him. Nagata is a far superior warrior. Hayashi shouted at Onoo in Japanese, drawing laughs from Onoo and Nagata. Onoo said Hayashi wants to face Nagata to prove himself, but Onoo doesn't think he deserves a chance and left Hayashi frustrated in the right.
Finlay cut a promo before his match. He's show why they call him the Belfast Bruiser. Who else could put Meng in the hospital?
Fit Finlay pinned The Barbarian with the Tombstone Piledriver in 0:06:51. Rating: *** (Fit Finlay retained the WCW TV Title.)
Jimmy Hart got the mic after the match and challenged Finlay to fight Meng again at Uncensored. Finlay agreed, promising he wont back down from a challenge by anyone.
Gene Okerlund is backstage with Commissioner JJ Dillon. Dillon says the WCW Executive Committee has been working hard to set the lineup for Uncensored. Sonny Onoo may not respect Kaz Hayashi as a wrestler, but the Executive Committee does. Hayashi vs Nagata at Uncensored! He confirms Eddie Guerrero and Chris Jericho will have a match for the Cruiserweight Title. Due to the issue of one man being champion but the other having the belt, the Cruiserweight Title will be suspended over the ring and the only way to reach it will be by climbing a ladder!
Scott Hall and Syxx cut a promo before the next match. Syxx said his neck is healed and he's ready for action. Hall mocks Savage. He surveys the crowd if they think he will beat Sting at Uncensored and of course claims another one for da bad guy.
Scott Hall pinned Steve McMichael with the Outsider Edge in 0:05:10. Rating: -** 1/4 [Syxx interfered against Steve McMichael.]
With Syxx at ringside, Mongo was accompanied by Dean Malenko. Syxx still got in some interference, but ended up fighting with Malenko outside the ring.
Harlem Heat (Stevie Ray and Booker T) and Public Enemy (Rocco Rock and Johnny Grunge) battled to a double countout in 0:07:46. Rating: * 3/4 (Harlem Heat retained the WCW World Tag Team Titles.)
Harlem Heat had promised to be fighting champions and gave Sonny Onoo's team a shot last week, which lead to Onoo turning on Hayashi. This week it was Public Enemy's chance. Both teams are popular with the fans and TPE had their trusty table at ringside. With Harlem Heat having the upper hand, Rocco and Grunge sent the match to the floor to gain the advantage. The subsequent brawl between the two teams saw them both counted out. With the match thrown out, Public Enemy decieded to really play to their strengths and found trash cans under the ring which they used to lay out the champions! Stevie Ray then got put through the TPE table with the Drive By. You can be sure things aren't finished between these teams.
Nash cut a promo before the main event. He told DDP he can shut up about getting a rematch for the US Title match at Uncensored; the match is on! Nash also promising that as a founding member of the nWo, he would keep their house in order. And like any family, just because there is some disagreement going on doesn't mean you can count them out. He promised to prove it tonight.
Diamond Dallas Page and The Giant defeated The nWo (Buff Bagwell and Kevin Nash) when Giant defeated Nash by disqualification in 0:09:11. Rating: -1/2* [Scott Hall interfered against The Giant.]
What Nash was out to prove tonight because apparent as during the match he removed the padding from one of the turnbuckles, but it wasn't initially relevant. When the inevitable nWo run-in occured (with Randy Savage noticeably absent), Nash was joined by Hall and they sent Giant back-first into the exposed turnbuckle. The Giant was then dumped outside of the ring where Curt Hennig had pulled up the mats. Hennig delivered the Hennig Plex on the exposed concrete, doing more damage to the Giant's back. Lex Luger, The Horsemen, and The Hart Foundation charged to the rescue and scattered the nWo but the damage was already done.
Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 17, 2011 20:50:55 GMT -5
WCW Saturday Night March 14, 1998
Announcers: Scott Hudson & Dusty Rhodes
Dragon Kid and Ultimo Dragon defeated Los Villanos (Villano IV and Villano V) when Dragon Kid made Villano V submit to an abdominal stretch in 0:06:52. Rating: *** 1/2
Lizmark Jr. and Super Calo defeated La Parka and Psychosis when Calo defeated Parka by disqualification in 0:02:12. Rating: * 3/4
This was a rematch from last week's show that had ended in countout after some big dives outside the ring. This one ended in DQ when Parka grabbed his trusty chair and started swinging.
The Destruction Crew (Mike Enos and Wayne Bloom) defeated The Armstrong Brothers (Scott Armstrong and Steve Armstrong) when Bloom pinned Scott Armstrong with the Butterfly Suplex in 0:05:03. Rating: ** 1/4
Lash LeRoux pinned Hugh Morrus after spinning headscissors in 0:04:41. Rating: * 1/4
Hugh Morrus seemed to be dominating the match, but seemed to injure his arm. LeRoux quickly capitalized.
Jim Duggan pinned Scott Putski with the Old Glory in 0:08:28. Rating: DUD
Rematch from last week when Putski had used Duggan's 2x4 against him.
Louie Spicolli pinned Norman Smiley with the Spicolli Driver in 0:07:30. Rating: ***
This seemed like it might be a comedy match, with both guys having a history of acting goofy. Spicolli is the guy who replaced Vincent at the bottom of the nWo pecking order and came out to this match alone so his chances might not have seemed good. But after a little clowning around at first, he got serious and looked like he had something to prove.
The Windham Brothers (Barry Windham and Kendall Windham) defeated Disco Inferno and Magnum Tokyo when B. Windham pinned Disco with the Superplex in 0:04:07. Rating: ** 1/4
Chris Benoit made Chris Adams submit to the Crippler Crossface in 0:15:32. Rating: ***
Dusty pointed out Chris Adams has been "gettin' to the pay winda" quite often in recent months, but he really had his work cut out for him here. Adams put up a great fight, with several pinfalls and even reaching the ropes when Benoit had him locked in the Crossface too close to the edge of the ring. But Benoit kicked out after Adams nailed him with the Superkick and Benoit got the Crossface for a second time, this time in the middle of the ring where there was no escape. After the match, Benoit and Adams shook hands.
WCW Uncensored '98 March 22, 1998 live on PPV Current lineup (card subject to change)
WCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE MATCH Sting (c) vs Scott Hall
WCW UNITED STATES TITLE MATCH Kevin Nash (c) vs Diamond Dallas Page
LOSER LEAVES THE nWo Hollywood Hogan vs Randy Savage
WCW CRUISERWEIGHT TITLE MATCH: LADDER MATCH Chris Jericho (c) vs Eddie Guerrero
WCW TELEVISION TITLE MATCH: ANYTHING GOES Fit Finlay (c) vs Meng
Rick Steiner vs Scott Steiner Kaz Hayashi vs Yugi Nagata (w/ Sonny Onoo)
WCW News March 15, 1998
Hugh Morrus tore his bicep. He will be out action for several months.
I would call BS on Perfect hitting the Hennig Plex on the Giant, but I actually saw the Sunday Night Heat (I believe that was the show) where he did it. It was an amazing thing to see. Hopefully Hennig can use some of this momentum for a bigger push.
I would call BS on Perfect hitting the Hennig Plex on the Giant, but I actually saw the Sunday Night Heat (I believe that was the show) where he did it. It was an amazing thing to see. Hopefully Hennig can use some of this momentum for a bigger push.
Wow. He did it in WCW too? I only remembered the time in WWE. Definitely makes Hennig look like a badass. I know Big Show pretty much no-sold it in the WWE, so I'm assuming that the Giant kicks out at two here as well?