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Post by theimpalertmx on May 20, 2011 12:10:38 GMT -5
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Post by JoshiQ on May 20, 2011 12:41:47 GMT -5
Not since Benoit or Guerrero has one hit me this hard. This just sucks. I wish he would have been inducted into the HoF and in the process been given a farewell.
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Post by theimpalertmx on May 20, 2011 14:02:59 GMT -5
Yeah, it's too bad he never got to have that one last standing ovation. Well, I'm sure he'll get it sometime... it's just too bad he won't be here to experience it.
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Post by Zedja on May 20, 2011 15:02:25 GMT -5
This one didn't hit me as hard as Guerrero, since I actually cried that day. But it still got me to yell out. The only good thing about this is that this might finally get him into the Hall Of Fame. Something that was long overdue. I wonder if something will happen to the Smackdown show due to this.
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Post by psz on May 20, 2011 18:38:21 GMT -5
This one hit me more than Guerrero or Benoit, only because I'd watched him for soooo much longer... My brothers and co-workers, none of which are wrestling fans, even gave a "WHAT?!? NO!!!" at work.
Of my three older brothers, the youngest even said "Man, he was one of the few I'd actually watch" (Gorilla Monsoon and Bobby Heenan are his "all time favourites"). He's the one who broke the news with an "AAAAH! THIS SUCKS!"
We debated eating Slim Jims to "half staff" in his honour (Cept we're all on diets, so....)
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Post by theimpalertmx on May 21, 2011 1:02:59 GMT -5
Well, let's agree that Benoit's was an entirely different beast. As far as comparing between Guerrero and Macho Man, they come from two different parts of my life. Macho Man was a part of my childhood when wrestling was fun because of the crazy characters like Savage and Warrior. Sure, he was in WCW around the time Eddie debuted, but they were obviously in different stages of their career.
Eddie was one of those guys who represents the fan I am today. With that territory comes knowing all about his personal life and making the separation between the character and the individual. Eddie's death was a lot more personal to me because of that. Someone like Savage is so iconic that... well, you never think about what wrestling would be like without the Macho Man. It's always just there, a part of the past. We haven't see his whole life break down in public as opposed to guys like Flair and Hogan. He had his time and for the most part he stayed out of the spotlight. Savage had already made his moments - with Eddie you knew that there was more for him to do.
There are a lot of parallels to draw between the two, though. Both had put their past troubles behind them (or at least we can assume so with Savage since he had remarried a year ago and was largely out of the business) only to realize that the abuse they had already done was permanent and no matter how well they were living at the moment you can't take that away. I also connect them together because I think they are two of the greatest overall performers that wrestling has ever had. Both had the skill and the charisma which made them stand out so far above the rest. Yeah, there were guys who were better in the ring with both of them (Eddie less so, but let's not forget that Savage would bust his ass, too), but there are very few who had that total package. Savage will ultimately be a cultural icon where Eddie's legacy is pretty much going to be limited to wrestling fans, but they were both cut from the same cloth.
I don't know, I spent a few hours watching a bunch of stuff on YouTube today and was just trying to focus on the positive aspects. I know I'll wake up tomorrow with that twist in my gut that makes me struggle with knowing that one of the things I enjoy the most has such a dark side to it. Actually, that's pretty much where I stopped my trip down memory lane because I was seeing so many guys who aren't alive any more in there. Botchamania posted what was Savage's last WCW appearance, a battle royal in 2000. Guys in that match who have passed away: The Wall, Mike Awesome, Chris Candido, and Bam Bam Bigelow... all gone before Savage.
It's just really unfortunate that he just patched things up with Vince because all signs pointed to him at least getting inducted into the Hall of Fame and have one last moment. This doesn't change any of that; in fact it probably speeds it up, but I just wish Macho could have been there. Hell, I wish he could just see it today - so many posts from Facebook friends who used to be fans and from people who never were. I think that says about everything to realize how huge of a blow this is.
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Post by jacklarkin on May 25, 2011 13:27:30 GMT -5
Macho was one of my top 20 favorite wrestlers of all-time. I can probably come up with 10 I liked better but not 20.
Unlike other sports hall of fames the WWE or other Pro Wrestling hall of fames need to keep the tenuous mortality of these performers in mind. In a business that seems to chew 'em up and spit 'em out, and revise history at a whim, once your no longer with the company your pretty much irrelevant. How many times has WWE inducted someone as part of a deal to get a library of work? the Original Sheik and Verne Gagne for example?
It's too bad that Randy Savage who was one of the WWF's greatest stars and helped carry the company while Hogan was out was not given his dues by the WWE in time for him to bask in the glory one more time.
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