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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 30, 2011 20:01:41 GMT -5
1) I really wish that TNM 7 had the old Tournament feature that the pre-6.2 versions had. You could schedule tournaments and the wrestlers would move up and down the standings based on their performances. I always had a lot of fun with it. It would tell you how many places the wrestler moved up or down, the highest he'd ever been ranked, etc.
2) I wish that with wrestler contracts, if a wrestler wasn't going to re-sign, you could sometimes get a notice that the wrestler was leaning toward staying, leaning toward leaving, etc. It shouldn't tell you straight up every time, but it would give you a little time to perhaps convince the wrestler to stay, get a title off a wrestler, etc. instead of getting caught off-guard and then having one card to make a title switch.
3) I know Oliver doesn't have the time to do full-time work to TNM, which I wouldn't expect him to. But I was thinking we could compile a list of things that would be a cool addition to the program and maybe if any of them are relatively quick programming things, he would do them. I mean, he did some programming for Windows 7 compatibility not too long ago, so it might be something worth looking into. I don't think anyone expects big programming overhauls or huge features be added, but maybe a real MITB match, career-ending injuries, or something like that might be doable.
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 30, 2011 20:13:51 GMT -5
3) I know Oliver doesn't have the time to do full-time work to TNM, which I wouldn't expect him to. But I was thinking we could compile a list of things that would be a cool addition to the program and maybe if any of them are relatively quick programming things, he would do them. I mean, he did some programming for Windows 7 compatibility not too long ago, so it might be something worth looking into. I don't think anyone expects big programming overhauls or huge features be added, but maybe a real MITB match, career-ending injuries, or something like that might be doable. Awhile back I had a Compiled Wish List thread on the mothership forums: www.tnm7.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.cgi?board=wishlist;action=display;num=1189435673I would say the easiest and most desirable would probably be a plugin for Hell In The Cell, Money In The Bank, and TLC matches since those are staple gimmick matches of WWE. |
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 30, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -5
Ultimately, TNM7 may be doomed if a Windows version doesn't come out in a few years. DOSbox is only a bandaid solution. For example, if you have to run TNM7 in DOSbox but want to run one of the Windows plugins I think you're current SOL, right?
Where's a CompSci major who is also a wrestling fan when we need one?
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 30, 2011 20:46:11 GMT -5
Doesn't the new build work with Windows 7?
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Post by pat2007 on Jun 30, 2011 20:51:11 GMT -5
Doesn't the new build work with Windows 7? Mine does work on Windows 7. |
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Post by jeff the god of biscuits on Jun 30, 2011 20:55:20 GMT -5
2) I wish that with wrestler contracts, if a wrestler wasn't going to re-sign, you could sometimes get a notice that the wrestler was leaning toward staying, leaning toward leaving, etc. It shouldn't tell you straight up every time, but it would give you a little time to perhaps convince the wrestler to stay, get a title off a wrestler, etc. instead of getting caught off-guard and then having one card to make a title switch. I would like to see this one as well Snabby ... however I do use the Insert Champion feature if I have a champion quit or leave while still holding a title, that way I can work a program into the wrestler leaving ... |
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Post by snabbit888 on Jun 30, 2011 21:08:47 GMT -5
2) I wish that with wrestler contracts, if a wrestler wasn't going to re-sign, you could sometimes get a notice that the wrestler was leaning toward staying, leaning toward leaving, etc. It shouldn't tell you straight up every time, but it would give you a little time to perhaps convince the wrestler to stay, get a title off a wrestler, etc. instead of getting caught off-guard and then having one card to make a title switch. I would like to see this one as well Snabby ... however I do use the Insert Champion feature if I have a champion quit or leave while still holding a title, that way I can work a program into the wrestler leaving ... Yeah. I know there are ways to get the champion to still defend the title and such even if he's not under contract. It's just one of those things that if the wrestler quit on me or didn't re-sign, he doesn't want to be there so in "TNM world," it's usually not realistic for me to use that wrestler to drop the strap. |
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Post by JoshiQ on Jun 30, 2011 21:18:17 GMT -5
I am a stickler for following what TNM gives me when it comes to things like this, so I agree that it would be a nice addition. I don't know why I won't let myself use a guy that quits, but I will totally re-write a match result if I want. I guess it's one of the few ways I restrict myself. But knowing that my World Champion is going to probably quit in three cards would be a nice way of letting me know to start building towards something. I wouldn't use them probably, but I bet a lot of people would like the MiTB and HiTC matches. I can't believe they would be that hard to program either. The career ending injuries would also be fun. Maybe only 1 out of every 200 injuries (or maybe that's too much) could be a career ending injury. And if people don't like it, they could always use the TweakCirc to bring him back. I would think the programming would mostly be something like "Injury > 999" ...I obviously don't know a programming language.  |
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Post by allpowerfulgarth on Jul 1, 2011 8:21:53 GMT -5
I can live without the statistical stuff and even the match plugins, as I make full use of TweakCirc and Circuit Editor to fix any changes caused by the limitations of TNM's match programming. But the warning system for wrestlers growing dissatisfied with their lot in life would be fantastic. I mean, yeah, I can TweakCirc my way around that too if I want, but I hate going that route; it would be much better if I could see which guys are on the cusp of saying "to hell with it" and decide whether to give them a bigger role or just let them slag off because, as the meme goes, "creative has nothing for them."
Of course, if such a system were to be included, it might be helpful if some tweaks were made to the Interview plugin that would allow you to specify which wrestlers are part of the interview segment, and maybe even define how important a role they play in it. That way, you could keep some of the dissatisfied guys in the mix without necessarily having matches for them on every card. It would also be a way to ensure guys who play a role in storylines but don't wrestle often, e.g. Sting in 1996-97, don't quit on you.
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jul 1, 2011 14:07:24 GMT -5
Of course, if such a system were to be included, it might be helpful if some tweaks were made to the Interview plugin that would allow you to specify which wrestlers are part of the interview segment, and maybe even define how important a role they play in it. That way, you could keep some of the dissatisfied guys in the mix without necessarily having matches for them on every card. It would also be a way to ensure guys who play a role in storylines but don't wrestle often, e.g. Sting in 1996-97, don't quit on you. Not only quitting, but also building Heat. Sting had Heat = 10 going into Starrcade '97 despite not having wrestled a match in over a year - impossible to do in TNM7 without editing the heat rating via TweakCirc. |
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Jul 2, 2011 10:48:55 GMT -5
Yeah. Plus, I think if someone booked a circuit like WCW did Sting in 97, we'd slag him for it.
"Uh. So...is your most popular face ever going to actually FIGHT the bad guy?"
Though I guess, technically, Sting did a lot of post-match run-ins.
Then again, it was probably still a net bad idea. Sting should have fought Hogan earlier, the Wolfpac/nWo split should have happened sooner, and the whole shabang should have been wrapped up by mid-1998.
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Post by Flair4TheGold on Jul 2, 2011 20:50:17 GMT -5
I love the idea to modify the Interview plugin. That would be a great help with the contracts and heat and keeping wrestlers happy. Someone should shoot that to Oliver.
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Post by rebelcoyote on Mar 6, 2012 11:53:16 GMT -5
How about War Games style plug-in? I also want create a deathmatch plug-in
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Post by vertigo on Mar 6, 2012 12:18:31 GMT -5
War Games is already in. Unless you're meaning something else using War Games as a basis?
Re: Contracts - I think more programming would be involved for a "notification" system than you think. Unless you're cool with it being completely randomized. I'd feel like there would have to be some sort of stat for each wrestler regarding personality or ego.
For example; someone with a huge ego that loses a lot would be more likely to quit where as a guy with a smaller ego will lose every week and still show up to work.
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Post by rey619 on Mar 8, 2012 2:34:13 GMT -5
Who quits or not isn't totally random isn't it? Doesn't it have something to do with push, titles and win/loss record? I don't know, sure looks random though.
I could probably compile a list of 99 things that I would like to see in a new version, but I have come to terms with the fact that we'd probably never see one. If and when the day comes when we cannot run TNM on a computer anymore, I'll probably try to design some quick RPG-like rules for running a circuit. It's not like TNM is strictly necessary for a booked circuit anyway, you could just write out the results anyway and throw some dice for random injuries, no-shows and so forth.
It's a completely different ball game for those running unbooked.
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