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Post by seanh529 on Aug 29, 2012 11:24:51 GMT -5
After talking about it for a few days on the site, I've decided I'm going to start on a major export project for the benefit of TNM users. (all 10 of us. ) I'm going to build out exports based on all wrestlers from the 90's. Starting January 1990-October 1999. (I'll explain that later.) I know their are plenty of exports out there, but I want this project to have accurate listings, with references to the information. This way everyone will know exactly how or why these exports were built. I'll explain it in more detail later this week. Its a pretty complex task, but once I can describe how I want to start the project, anyone that wants to contribute will be able to do that. I'm pretty excited about it.
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Post by LillaThrilla on Aug 29, 2012 12:23:37 GMT -5
First thing to do would probably make a list of who you want. For example: do you need 3 versions of Hogan (early 90s WWF Hulk Hogan, mid 90s WCW Hulk Hogan, and late 90s WCW Hollywood Hogan) or do you want one for every year?
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Post by seanh529 on Aug 29, 2012 12:28:43 GMT -5
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Post by mdale2k on Aug 30, 2012 11:23:40 GMT -5
I love the idea espicially with the moves, I hate created moves as it creates multiples TNMs for me.
I will help out for sure!
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Post by seanh529 on Aug 30, 2012 14:22:02 GMT -5
Yes! I installed a fresh TNM and any moves that are added will be put in the bios section. This way if you really don't want them you know who has the move and how to delete it.
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Post by BeerGeek on Sept 8, 2012 15:41:46 GMT -5
I love the idea espicially with the moves, I hate created moves as it creates multiples TNMs for me. I will help out for sure! I also hate created moves, especially when there isn't a lot of wrestlers who use them. But what I hate even more is when people rename existing moves in the database. Like for example, when someone renames the power bomb in his database, then uploads an export, you end up with several instances of what is pretty much the same move. I'm sure taking the space out of power bomb is going to make a difference to the effectiveness of the move... I've also ran into several instances and spellings of hurricanrana, and not to mention several times I downloaded an export and I would have both a small package, and a small package hold in my TNM database. Armdrag takedown and armdrag is another, as well as armbar submission and armbar.
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Post by LillaThrilla on Sept 8, 2012 16:28:54 GMT -5
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Post by seanh529 on Sept 8, 2012 20:12:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the input. If you read the site I broke the project down into phases. I'm still into phase one, which is adding all the names of the rosters. once I get into phase two, export creation, I will definitely look into the community for advice as to what we want in a good export.
I downloaded a new TNM which has the standard moves. Any new move I create for an export is transparent from the profile page. I'm really happy about the project: it's just going to take time to be completed.
I'm updating the site daily, but didn't plan to update the board until I'm done with the rosters. Stay tuned!
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Post by snabbit888 on Sept 8, 2012 20:38:26 GMT -5
I enjoy this project. When you get to export creation time, let me know and I'll help out however I can.
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Post by kingofoldschool on Sept 22, 2012 5:11:19 GMT -5
I would echo Josh's comments on the move list. I notice in your Hogan export that you have created the following moves:
Collar and Elbow Tieup elbow to the mid section Boot to the face
I wouldn't include the first. "Elbow to the mid section" could be replaced with "elbowsmash" and "boot to the face" is the same as "kick to the head".
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Post by mdale2k on Sept 22, 2012 17:06:46 GMT -5
Did u actually recreate the atomic drop? O is that an oversight?
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Post by Zedja on Sept 23, 2012 13:38:15 GMT -5
I would echo Josh's comments on the move list. I notice in your Hogan export that you have created the following moves: Collar and Elbow Tieup elbow to the mid section Boot to the face I wouldn't include the first. "Elbow to the mid section" could be replaced with "elbowsmash" and "boot to the face" is the same as "kick to the head". For me a boot to the face is what the Undertaker does while a kick to the head is more like what a karate guy does. The difference being where on the head it hits, the front or the side. But that is just me.
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Post by seanh529 on Sept 23, 2012 15:01:35 GMT -5
Couple things.
-Boot the the face is different to me than a kick to the head. Commentary on a 1990's Hogan match would define it as a boot to the face. I agree with Zedja, a kick to the head seems a little different in my opinion.
- I did add atomic drop, because that move was not in the initial database. Might the move be under a different name?
The idea with the profile page is the concept that at the moves are put in as bullet points. If you need the export and want to make minor changes to not contaminate your database, you know exactly where the move is, and have the opportunity to easily switch it out.
I'll be adding a few more rosters this week. Been slammed at work as I was in Boston for a week.
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Post by snabbit888 on Sept 23, 2012 15:53:15 GMT -5
Whether it's a name thing or not, I thought it had been established in TNM that kick to the head is what we think of as Hogan's big boot.
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Post by seanh529 on Sept 23, 2012 16:35:40 GMT -5
Okay, just to play devils advocate, If Kawada does a kick to the head, are we assuming that is the same move as Hogans slow boot? Is it under a different name? or do we make a new kick?
I have not had a chance to look at the moves database, as I haven't even put all the rosters up yet. The Hogan bio is literally used as an example of how I'm going to have the layout of the area, so all feedback is good to have.
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Post by kingofoldschool on Sept 24, 2012 15:11:29 GMT -5
Okay, just to play devils advocate, If Kawada does a kick to the head, are we assuming that is the same move as Hogans slow boot? Is it under a different name? or do we make a new kick? I have not had a chance to look at the moves database, as I haven't even put all the rosters up yet. The Hogan bio is literally used as an example of how I'm going to have the layout of the area, so all feedback is good to have. In TNM, a big boot is called "kick to the head". That's what Oliver told me and therefore that's what I use.
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Post by seanh529 on Jan 12, 2013 12:44:05 GMT -5
Alright i'm willing to ask for some help on this. Getting rosters together is taking a mighty long time with my work schedule and trying to keep my circuit going as well. I thought I would have some weekends available, but my wife and I bought a new home, which comes with a lot more "adult responsibilities" than I'm willing to admit to. Somehow playing with my wrestling simulator game doesn't seem to be a good enough excuse! I posted some new rosters today, with links from where I'm getting the information. If anyone is willing to send me rosters of the federations that still don't have links, that would be awesome! I would then be able to get the pages up quicker and I can move on to start making some exports. I've done 27 links to promotions and their years. I still need 80 done!!! So the more help the merrier!
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Post by seanh529 on Jul 21, 2013 20:22:57 GMT -5
Just wanted to share a great site with tons of data that will help expedite my 90's project vision. Cagematch.net. Its a german based database website. It literally has tons of promotions and you can search by year the rosters. They have every promotion that i plan on using in the project. I would definitely recommend it if you are looking for some very rare exports that you might only build yourself.
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