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Post by BeerGeek on Jun 13, 2010 20:04:20 GMT -5
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Post by psz on Jun 14, 2010 7:19:11 GMT -5
% Vince is working over the Net-Fans.... All the live long day..... %
(Sung to Workin' on the Railroad)
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Post by LillaThrilla on Jun 14, 2010 13:58:41 GMT -5
Has the WWE ever listened to an internet petition?
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Post by BeerGeek on Jun 14, 2010 15:17:21 GMT -5
Has the WWE ever listened to an internet petition? Yes, actually they listened to an internet petition when the fired Matt Hardy after the Edge-Matt-Lita situation They also listened to an internet petition a few years back to bring back Boogeyman
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Post by JustinCredible on Jun 14, 2010 16:57:44 GMT -5
you spelled "reinstate" wrong in the title...
To paraphrase Eric Cartman.... "I'm not too busy to sin your petition... I just don't care... at all"
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Post by BeerGeek on Jun 14, 2010 22:47:35 GMT -5
you spelled "reinstate" wrong in the title... To paraphrase Eric Cartman.... "I'm not too busy to sin your petition... I just don't care... at all" LOL, I'm not offended, since it's not even my petition to begin with, LOL
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Post by tommybrownell on Jun 15, 2010 1:23:11 GMT -5
If NBC/Universal really pushed WWE to fire Bryan, he's not coming back until they stop paying attention.
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Post by BeerGeek on Jun 15, 2010 13:52:43 GMT -5
If NBC/Universal really pushed WWE to fire Bryan, he's not coming back until they stop paying attention. apparantly it was not NBC/Universal, it was Mattel who makes their action figures
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Post by tommybrownell on Jun 15, 2010 14:16:21 GMT -5
See, this is crazy. They should totally release a Daniel Bryan figure with tie accessory.
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Post by psz on Jun 15, 2010 18:30:04 GMT -5
If NBC/Universal really pushed WWE to fire Bryan, he's not coming back until they stop paying attention. apparantly it was not NBC/Universal, it was Mattel who makes their action figures I figured it wasn't NBC/Universal... They where FINE with the first few months of ECW on SyFy, which had blood, chair shots, fire, etc etc etc.
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Post by tommybrownell on Jun 16, 2010 0:52:32 GMT -5
Well, I thought it would have been silly since they also ran Raw through the Attitude Era.
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Post by psz on Aug 15, 2010 22:05:25 GMT -5
% Vince is working over the Net-Fans.... All the live long day..... % (Sung to Workin' on the Railroad) Heeeeeeee's BAAAAAaaaack.....
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Post by JustinCredible on Aug 16, 2010 5:44:25 GMT -5
the first person that thinks this petition had anything to do with it deserves a slap. they said since the begininng that they wanted him back. even cena (who is a company guy & wouldn't speak out against anything they do) sided with the fans. that should have been sign 1 that this was a work. one of the best that vince & crew have pulled off since the whole "matt hardy incident" years ago.
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Post by urowndisaster180 on Aug 16, 2010 10:19:44 GMT -5
I like the Daniel Bryan appearance and I like that they're going to have him feuding with the Miz, however, I hated the end of that match last night. Can they ever put anybody EVER over on Cena? They ruined all credibility of the NEXUS last night because they needed to put over Cena, who doesn't need to be put over at all.
At minimum, they should've put over NEXUS last night - if I were running the show, I would've swerved Cena and had him turn on the WWE team, finally, turning him heel, which is SO long overdue that it's not even funny. Half the crowd hates the guy already - it's time for them to stop shoving him down the throats of the fans.
Instead, they took what was the most interesting angle in a while and just laid big fat egg on it because they had to put over Cena AGAIN. Like there's almost no point in watching a match with him in it on a PPV - you always know what the result will be. The WWE had a really nice thing going and as far as I'm concerned they ruined it last night.
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Post by ultramagnus on Aug 16, 2010 10:29:14 GMT -5
I like the Daniel Bryan appearance and I like that they're going to have him feuding with the Miz, however, I hated the end of that match last night. Can they ever put anybody EVER over on Cena? They ruined all credibility of the NEXUS last night because they needed to put over Cena, who doesn't need to be put over at all. At minimum, they should've put over NEXUS last night - if I were running the show, I would've swerved Cena and had him turn on the WWE team, finally, turning him heel, which is SO long overdue that it's not even funny. Half the crowd hates the guy already - it's time for them to stop shoving him down the throats of the fans. Instead, they took what was the most interesting angle in a while and just laid big fat egg on it because they had to put over Cena AGAIN. Like there's almost no point in watching a match with him in it on a PPV - you always know what the result will be. The WWE had a really nice thing going and as far as I'm concerned they ruined it last night. Just curious, did you watch ANY WWF in the 1980s?
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Post by urowndisaster180 on Aug 16, 2010 12:38:26 GMT -5
I like the Daniel Bryan appearance and I like that they're going to have him feuding with the Miz, however, I hated the end of that match last night. Can they ever put anybody EVER over on Cena? They ruined all credibility of the NEXUS last night because they needed to put over Cena, who doesn't need to be put over at all. At minimum, they should've put over NEXUS last night - if I were running the show, I would've swerved Cena and had him turn on the WWE team, finally, turning him heel, which is SO long overdue that it's not even funny. Half the crowd hates the guy already - it's time for them to stop shoving him down the throats of the fans. Instead, they took what was the most interesting angle in a while and just laid big fat egg on it because they had to put over Cena AGAIN. Like there's almost no point in watching a match with him in it on a PPV - you always know what the result will be. The WWE had a really nice thing going and as far as I'm concerned they ruined it last night. Just curious, did you watch ANY WWF in the 1980s? Of course, I did, I imagine you're making reference to Hogan? I understand that comparison, in terms of what they're doing, but I think that was a different time and era. Or perhaps I'm just blind to those days as I was a child. Either way, currently, I think they're not pushing the envelope like they should be.
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Post by snabbit888 on Aug 16, 2010 13:10:44 GMT -5
A bunch of pretty much no-name rookies nearly beat a team of established stars that included 4 multiple time World champions in the main event of the second biggest PPV of the year, and you think they were buried?
And half the crowd doesn't hate Cena. The people who hate Cena are the people whose calendars at home are broken and stuck in 1999.
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Post by urowndisaster180 on Aug 16, 2010 15:18:25 GMT -5
A bunch of pretty much no-name rookies nearly beat a team of established stars that included 4 multiple time World champions in the main event of the second biggest PPV of the year, and you think they were buried? And half the crowd doesn't hate Cena. The people who hate Cena are the people whose calendars at home are broken and stuck in 1999. The idea behind the stable is that they were supposed to be this rising force - they had the opportunity to really put them over here and make them legitimate - a chance which was missed I feel. I can't see where they go from here with that group and that's a shame because they really had a ton of heat. Half the crowd does hate Cena - did you not hear the equally loud "Cena sucks" chant after the "Let's Go Cena!" chant? Just because you might have some sort of partialness to him doesn't change that there are a number of fans, who have grown extremely tired of his act and the way the WWE has choose to push him. I was watching with a group of people and after it was over, we were all in consensus that was 1) the wrong way to go in the match, and 2) in our lack of understanding as to why the WWE just refuses to put anyone over on that guy.
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Post by snabbit888 on Aug 16, 2010 15:34:55 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong - I felt the Super Cena act at the end of the match was a bit much too. If Cena was to win, it should have been under a fluke scenario and not essentially no-selling a DDT on the concrete. I get that.
But PPV crowds are always filled with smarky audiences who boo Cena like that. And just because Cena isn't marketed toward you and your friends doesn't mean he desperately should be turned heel. I think you're misinterpreting your dislike of Cena with the views and opinions of WWE's entire market. When Cena stops out selling everyone in merch by a fairly big margin, then yeah, we'll talk.
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Post by psz on Aug 16, 2010 17:45:25 GMT -5
I had no problem with Team Raw beating the Nexus.
I had no problem with Cena being one of the guys who beat the Nexus. Cena has grown on me, in much the same way Shamus and Orton have, in the last year or so, so I really don't mind him being Mr. Amazing.
I think, however, as a way to increase his OMG!!!! moment, that it should have been Cena *AND* Danielson as the last remaining Raw guys.... Together. That way Cena's still over, and Danielson gets a good push on his "return".
Or, if you're going to have Cena win solo, don't kill the Nexus' push by having him win cleanly. Have Barret whack him with a chair ala Hart, or maybe attack the ref... Choke Cena with a camera cable :-P
A DQ win for Cena when it was down to one on one would have worked very well, as Cena's already way over and wouldn't have "diminished", and Barret's rub/push/whatever as a Major Heel would still be intact.
That or have Barret or Barret and Gabrial winning for Nexus.
The almost literally last-second Superman bit was a bit overkill. Maybe if Barret and Cena had a long, drawn out "match" at that point it would have worked (especially since Cena got a beatdown from the Raw heels earlier).
On a totally side note:
With Tyler Black's signing with FCW and Danielson's official return to the WWE, there are now four former ROH World Champs on WWE's payroll. Samoa Joe's had some... Issues with TNA, apparently.... Could we see five?
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Post by LillaThrilla on Aug 16, 2010 18:21:36 GMT -5
I've heard good arguments for Cena going over and arguments for Nexus going over. Personally, I think Nexus going over would have been better especially after the DDT on the concrete. But really the only thing I really think is wrong with the finish was how quickly Cena bounced back from what should have been a killer move.
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Post by ultramagnus on Aug 16, 2010 19:49:39 GMT -5
Just curious, did you watch ANY WWF in the 1980s? Of course, I did, I imagine you're making reference to Hogan? I understand that comparison, in terms of what they're doing, but I think that was a different time and era. Or perhaps I'm just blind to those days as I was a child. Either way, currently, I think they're not pushing the envelope like they should be. I guess I'm sort of talking about Hogan, but really I'm talking about the WWF/E formula. The faces go over at the big shows. Not always, but most of the time. I've been watching this angle develop, and I'm not a fan of the Nexus, but it's been pretty clear to me that they've been building to SummerSlam where Cena would get them back. The Nexus have gone over all summer. The WWE formula is for the face to get their big win at SummerSlam. If this had been done in WCW, or maybe even TNA, Nexus may have gone over. But that's not the formula in WWE, never has been, don't think it ever will be. Very few heels have had extended title reigns/big wins in WWE, dating all the way back to the '80s. Yokozuna was the first real expection, then Triple H, JBL, and Orton. Other than that, the heels may have had victories in the short term, but just enough for the face to get revenge. This is where I think TNA is missing the boat. There are definitely people out there who want the heels to go over, so maybe TNA should have their heels going over left and right. I think that would appeal to a lot of the people who are upset about Nexus not going over. As for Cena, someone else said it, but half the fans don't hate him. Have of the 'net smart marks hate him (maybe more than half). In terms of all fans, not even close. I watched the show at a sports bar, lots of excitement for Cena, not too many Nexus fans. I think it's also a BIG overstatement to say this angle is ruined or over with. Still lots of mileage with singles matches between Cena and Barrett (although I'm not sure he's quite ready for a lot of time, even though he is one of the best on the Nexus in-ring). I think Justin Gabriel is ready for some more exposure too. The rest of them, I'm not so sure about. I think Sheffield was featured way too much in the SummerSlam match. I'll wait and see what happens on RAW tonight before I pass too much judgment, but I think the SummerSlam match was handled correctly.
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Post by vertigo on Aug 17, 2010 9:11:52 GMT -5
I'll wait and see what happens on RAW tonight before I pass too much judgment, but I think the SummerSlam match was handled correctly. I agree. Although I haven't watched RAW yet, I just don't see how Nexus, as a group, continues if they win at SummerSlam. They can't keep running out and beating people up unless they move over to SmackDown. I think it's time to let Barrett run on his own, let a few guys get lost in the shuffle in the tag division, and let the rest go (I'm looking at you Otunga!)
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Post by Zedja on Aug 17, 2010 15:46:12 GMT -5
Cena's turn is overdue, yes. But with the sales of merchendise being what they are, there is no way they would turn him. I even heard Cena sells almost as much as all the others combined, which might not be true. Rey Mysterio who is second wouldn't turn either.
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Post by ultramagnus on Aug 17, 2010 18:30:31 GMT -5
Cena's turn is overdue, yes. But with the sales of merchendise being what they are, there is no way they would turn him. I even heard Cena sells almost as much as all the others combined, which might not be true. Rey Mysterio who is second wouldn't turn either. It would make sense to turn Cena in a TNM circuit. In real life, where he does movies, press conferences, Make-A-Wish, children's hospital visits, and SELLS MERCHANDISE, it would make no sense.
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