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Post by pulsar on Feb 1, 2011 2:32:09 GMT -5
Ok, I'm not 100% in love with this guy, but I can't believe he's going to be Main Eventing Wrestlemania?  And Jerry Lawler just won a chance to main Event Elimination Chamber? This years Wrestlemania is building to be an incredibly weak one. So far, all I see is CM Punk vs. John Cena or Randy Orton Alberto Del Rio vs. Edge Miz vs. Cena or Orton? And nothing set for the Undertaker yet? |
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Post by Crpls on Feb 1, 2011 11:14:33 GMT -5
You can't believe the best dude in the WWE since he debuted is gonna be in the main event of the biggest show? Odd.
Main Event of Chamber will likely be the World title match, Lawler-Miz will fill in between the two Chamber matches.
Undertaker supposedly chose Barrett as his next victim, I imagine following up on him being the leader of Nexus when they buried him alive.
The draw of WrestleMania is WrestleMania, not the card. Plus, I don't see what's so weak about it. They've built Del Rio incredibly well. Not to mention, the it's the WWE so Del Rio could lose the shot if they get concerned. Miz/Cena (and possible Orton in a 3 way) will be fine. Barrett-Taker, Orton vs Punk if they aren't thrown into the WWE title match. Plenty of room for other stuff to build over the next two months.
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Post by jeff the god of biscuits on Feb 1, 2011 11:55:22 GMT -5
Taker is still hurt, so unless he is at 100% I would expect him to face probably Gabriel & Slater ... I think he only gets Barrett if he can work a full non squash match ...
the tease is there for something with Kevin Nash and The Big Show ...
Chris Jericho has also been talking about resigning with WWE and I am sure he would be in the WM mix as well if that happens ...
and don't forget Bob Barker who is rumored to be there as well (end sarcasm) ...
yeah, its still two months out and they have to get through Elimination Chamber first, but I am not worried ... Wrestlemaina will be fine this year ...
and as for Del Rio winning the Rumble, I dig it ... the youth movement continues (although Del Rio has been around in Mexico for years, but you get what I mean) and if CM Punk didn't win this year (my pick), then Del Rio was the right choice ...
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Feb 1, 2011 14:11:29 GMT -5
Looks like:
WWE: Miz(c) v. Cena
World: Edge(c) v. Del Rio
Punk v. Orton
Undertaker v. Barrett
HHH v. Sheamus
Tag: Santino/Kozlov(c) v. Nexus v. Corre
Lawler v. Cole
Big Show v. Diesel
Sting v. ??
Could easily turn into a four-way for the WWE title with Miz/Punk/Cena/Orton. If 'Taker is still too hurt for a full singles match then probably Taker & partner v. Nexus. I guess the Lawler/Cole angle will turn into Lawler/Bryan v. Cole/Riley or even Cole/Miz with the WWE title just being a three-way between Punk/Cena/Orton.
I expect Sting. Possibly then we get Sting v. Undertaker with Barrett leading the Corre vs Nexus in an eight-man tag.
It all seems pretty underwhelming to me. Cena/Punk seemed like the only match that, build up properly, could have legit headlined WrestleMania.
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Post by pulsar on Feb 3, 2011 2:46:35 GMT -5
I'm not squashing on Del Rio, but to Main Event is an HONOR. I mean, most guys take years in WWE to make it to that point, the main exception I can think of nearly ever was Brock Lesnar, and he had been destroying people for quite a while to that point.
I guess I wouldn't mind Lawler vs. Cole as a good filler match, but it's 2 months away, Wrestlemania matches usually have a ton of build starting in Decemember, and minus CM Punk's two angles, I'm just not feeling it yet.
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Feb 3, 2011 19:02:04 GMT -5
In all fairness, Del Rio is hardly a young newcomer to the world of wrestling. He's been in the business for ten years. That he's hotter than all but Punk, Cena and The Miz says something about the WWE and their talent.
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Post by Crpls on Feb 7, 2011 17:27:04 GMT -5
You Forgot Poland.
I mean, Orton.
Dos Caras Jr. means nothing to the WWE. Plus, he absolutely blew as Caras. (Of course, that's as much as him just not fitting in with the CMLL main event scene as him sucking personally.)
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Post by pulsar on Feb 8, 2011 3:03:26 GMT -5
I went to the Supershow this past weekend in Philly.
In front of a live crowd, Del Rio is really good. He did some typical heel tactics like rip up a girls sign, etc. and it felt so awesomely old school heel. Mr. Del Rio, I've underestimated you. He beat Rey Misterio in a pretty good match
I can't believe the pops Randy Orton got. I've liked this guy for a long time, but did not expect his reaction he received in Philly, a notorious Blue collar town. And whether you like him or hate him, Miz is a heat MAGNET.
Dolph Ziggler vs. Edge was the Main Event and Ziggler had nearly 0 heat without Vickie. It was a travesty. Their match was phoned in at best, sadly.
Overall, Philly has been spoiled with ECW then ROH, but even the hardcore fans still show up for WWE, and their super-show really brought the goods for a house show
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Mar 1, 2011 13:31:05 GMT -5
So, what do we got now. The buildup has been even less inspiring than it seemed at the beginning of the month. WrestleMania 27 will have all the oomph of, say, a good In Your House from 1995. My original forecast WWE: Miz(c) v. Cena
World: Edge(c) v. Del Rio
Punk v. Orton
Undertaker v. Barrett
HHH v. Sheamus
Tag: Santino/Kozlov(c) v. Nexus v. Corre
Lawler v. Cole
Big Show v. Diesel
Sting v. ?? My updated forecast 1. WWE: Miz(c) v. Cena w/ The Rock functioning as a ringside enforcer (transitioning from "guest host" for most of the evening) 2. World: Edge(c) v. Del Rio 3. Punk v. Orton 4. Undertaker v. HHH w/ Shawn Michaels as special referee 5. Michael Cole w/ Jack Swagger v. Jerry Lawler, probably with Jim Ross involved at some point 6. Tag: Corre(c) v. Nexus v. Santino/Kozlov 7. Wade Barrett v. Big Show 8. Money in the Bank: Morrison, Mysterio, Jobber McSheamus, R-Truth, Christian, Kingston, Bryan, McIntyre, Bourne, Ziggler 9. Some dumb divas match that'll only be redeemed by Awesome Kong coming out and throwing them through the canvas No secondary titles defended because of course not. |
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Post by jeff the god of biscuits on Mar 23, 2011 22:24:51 GMT -5
just watched Raw that aired two weeks ago ... during the Brian Christopher segment I noticed something I always thought back in the Attitude Era ...
Brian Christopher looks like the illegitimate love child of Jerry Lawler and Davey Boy Smith ...
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Post by psz on Apr 3, 2011 21:22:35 GMT -5
Snooki just busted out a handspring elbow...
Yes, the cartwheel/backflip variety.
And she did it well.
WTF?
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Post by LillaThrilla on Apr 4, 2011 20:57:45 GMT -5
I've heard people say HHH/UT was awesome 4+ stars and other people say it sucked. Opinions?
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Apr 4, 2011 22:47:34 GMT -5
I thought it sucked. All laying around.
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Post by psz on Apr 5, 2011 0:34:12 GMT -5
It was shorter and less "OMG THAT WAS CLOSE" than the HBK match, but it was a good match overall.
Not HHH or Taker's best 'Mania match, for sure. Merely a Good match between them.
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Post by Crpls on Apr 6, 2011 0:21:09 GMT -5
Snooki just busted out a handspring elbow... Yes, the cartwheel/backflip variety. And she did it well. WTF? She was a gymnast. Trish pointed it out in one of the Axxess WWE.com videos. So they "trained" her around that. I loved that she was calling for the boos right before she knew she'd get the pop for those moves. I enjoyed the show. I'm rewatching it right now, actually. Some questionable booking decisions, both on a personal "I WANTED SO AND SO TO WIN" level (read: Alberto Del Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrio  ) and "WTF?" level as well, but I thought the in-ring action was good throughout. Taker/HHH is gonna be like HBK/Angle from a few years back. Tons of people are gonna think it was the worst, most obnoxious thing ever, and then others are gonna love it. I thought it was very good, but mostly hope Taker just finally quits (excepting maybe a match to make it 20-0 next year--was hoping Taker vs Cena, but oops.) |
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Post by LillaThrilla on Apr 6, 2011 17:25:38 GMT -5
Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan for the US Title gets bumped to a Dark Match while the 4-man tag match with Corre is a 1 minute joke. Oh how the NeXus have fallen from relevance, especially Barrett...
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Post by Crpls on Apr 6, 2011 19:39:08 GMT -5
How many Smark websites did you have to read to make that cliched comment?
8-Man tags like that ALWAYS go short. Everybody got to do something and then Corre lost like they should've based on their dominance (and attack of Kozlov over the weekend.) It's fine. They clearly like the group, just 'cause Barrett isn't WWE/World champ doesn't mean anything. Fallen from relevance? They attacked (or tried to) Rock and Cena RIGHT AFTER they announced the main even for WM 28.
At least think before you say stupid shit.
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Post by snabbit888 on Apr 6, 2011 21:54:04 GMT -5
That, and considering the 8-man tag featured Kane, Big Show, Kofi, & Santino, who at this point all deserved to be on the card more than Sheamus/Bryan (and I'm a big fan of both of those guys), and the match is staying.
I've heard so many people bitch about Sheamus/Bryan getting bumped while the 8-man tag and Rhodes/Mysterio got to stay on the main card. Anyone who thinks Kane/Show/Mysterio are getting left off Mania is insane.
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Post by psz on Apr 7, 2011 8:02:46 GMT -5
And, to be fair, they `bumped` the match to the pre-show, and made it a battle royal for all the guys who WEREN`T on the show...
... Meaning they ALL got to be part of `Mania, and they ALL got the PPV bonus check (even if it wasn`t televised), which is pretty cool for the WWE to do in general (Especially since Tis The Season For Future Endeavors)
My quote/apos key is dead, so ignore the odd looking typing ;->
(And I don't think doing it the "long way" like this is worth it :-P)
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Apr 8, 2011 10:40:33 GMT -5
What the hell man? This is a friendly forum. Don't be an ass.
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Post by gentlemanjeff on Apr 8, 2011 10:42:23 GMT -5
What they should have bumped was 10 minutes of Undertaker and Triple H lying around. Plus the 10 minute drama of Undertaker trying to leave the ring afterwards.
Boom, 10 more minutes for Cena/Miz, 10 minutes for Sheamus/Bryan.
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Post by Crpls on Apr 9, 2011 5:38:05 GMT -5
Sheamus and Danielson are two of my faves, but the butthurtedness of dumb internet smarks over them getting bumped (because they won't wrestle a dozen times over the next month or two) makes it worth it. Also keep in mind they did an unplanned chair shot to the head on one of their live matches, so that may have played into it (though I don't think it was sticking no matter what--even with the WWE.com video interviewing Danielson about his first WM match.) I also agree psz, though they've done the Battle Royal before without bumping anything. Not sure if those guys actually get a PPV cut, but I figure its as much about getting everyone on the show since they make every talent be in the Mania city for the whole week.
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Post by Crpls on Apr 9, 2011 5:41:39 GMT -5
Undertaker was likely legitimately hurt after the match, so I'm not sure how you "cut" that. I suppose it's possible it was a work, but they basically killed 20 years of his gimmick if so, since they carried him out on a cart and everything. I guess if he comes back in a few months saying he's retiring (after WM 28) because he can't even walk out anymore, we'll (maybe?) know for sure. He took another bad landing on the dive, BARELY got his hand up for the pointless chair shot to the head and probably wasn't in any condition to be working a WM length match (by his standards.)
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) and "WTF?" level as well, but I thought the in-ring action was good throughout.
