Foreign objects questions and manual omission

[dewelar]

I posted this in discord, but will also post here:

I was just reading through the manual, and I noticed that a couple of the fields for foreign objects are not described in that section: Move Through Object and Move With Object. Are these (along with Move Onto Object, which isn't clear on this count) meant to represent the amount of damage done in total, or the amount of extra damage done in addition to the move's regular damage? (the latter would make more sense, but need to clarify)

Also, does Move With Object refer to when the object is used to aid a move (e.g., The Sandman's White Russian Legsweep), when the object is worn while executing a move (e.g., Hacksaw Jim Duggan's taped fist), or both? Or something else entirely?

Thanks!

[badger]

Oliver can clarify for sure but I'm pretty sure those are just for context -- meaning so that TNM phrases it correctly during a match. Like "Move Through Object" literally refers to an object a move can go through like a table or a stack of light tubes. While "Move onto object" tells TNM the object won't break.

For example, a table would be a "move through object" thing because the phrasing would be something like "Wrestler A powerbombs Wrestler B through a table." If you chose "move onto object" for the table, it would instead say "Wrestler A powerbombs Wrestler B onto a table." Which doesn't sound as good unless it's one of those unbreakable Japanese tables.

Conversely, a pile of Legos would be a "move onto object" because "Wrestler A powerbombs Wrestler B onto a pile of Legos" makes more sense, phrasing-wise, than "Wrestler A powerbombs Wrestler B through a pile of Legos."

As you guessed, "move with object," I'm pretty sure, if for the object being held while doing the move. Like a moonsault holding a chair.

[dewelar]

Jan 19, 2022 13:11:56 GMT -5 badger said:

Oliver can clarify for sure but I'm pretty sure those are just for context

Yeah, I do think I remember him saying that at some point in the past. That really should be in the documentation, though. Thanks for the info on "move with", but would like confirmation from Oliver, along with an answer on how foreign object damage works (total vs. stacking).

[tnmlyger]

From Discord:

This is additional damage being done by virtue of being hit with the object, having a move done onto the object etc. Move With Object is like the White Russian legsweep, yes. You're also right re: worn. Think Hogan's fist helmet.

[dewelar]

Thanks again for the confirmation. I'm playing with the old file that BeerGeek posted with a ton of foreign objects rather than creating from scratch, and this will help a lot with curating the list.