Accuracy of Exports

[snabbit888]

How important is the accuracy of the wrestler export to you? Does the moveset and such need to be perfect for you to be happy using the wrestler?

[asover7s]

It doesn't have to be exact as far as moveset goes. Really I'm pretty satisfied as long as their realistic and the finishers are correct. For instance, I dont want to be seeing Scott Steiner doing springboard dropkicks. But as long as the basics are right, height, weight, style, finisher, then im pretty satisfied

[snabbit888]

I'm pretty much the same way. I just need it to be in the ballpark. A moveset in the area of correct (like you said, no Steiner springboard dropkicks), and the stats need to be correct enough where I can get relatively accurate match ratings. TNM is generally a little high on match ratings, which is fine by me, but ***** matches are still a little tricky to get. I don't need Great Khali wrestling classics every night.

[JoshiQ]

I agree with you both. I like some of the basics to be correc: hometown, finisher, workrate, moves that he probably could/would use...but even that can be a little off. Warlord just had a *** match with Koko. I don't think Warlord has ever had a *** match. I did edit him a bit after the match, but I'm okay with stuff not being exact.

But I mostly use TNM to keep things organized at this point. I also use it for the challenge it sometimes gives. I don't watch the matches anymore, I don't remember the last time I did, I don't pay attention to the card rating, I don't look at rankings, and don't ever type my comments into TNM. I use Word and sometimes Excel and a notebook to keep my notes.

I use TNM to organize my roster, decide who I can hire/fire, who quits, who no-shows, match ratings, and to keep track of my contracts. That's about it. It's a great program, but I just don't need all of the stuff it offers anymore. And heck, things like arm wrestling matches, scaffold matches, and other stuff I will use if it's easily found. But if not I can just write it in since I've memorized how TNM prints the resuts of a match.

TNM is a great program, but I mainly use it like dice in a RPG to determine certain random things.

[LillaThrilla]

I'd say accurate stats are the biggest thing. Moves - as long as they've covered all the signature moves (including basic moves the guy hits every match) - don't have to be perfect and it's hard to nail down a completely accurate movelist anyway. Many matches I've seen seem to have neither guy using more than 5-10 moves. I do really appreciate if someone puts in the correct corner moves, combo moves, and working the crowd string in an export (assuming the wrestler has them, but I think most do).

[rey619]

It's a little strange for me, as when I run TNM, it's more or less the same as with JoshiQ, I use it simply as a framework and barely watches anything in the match.

However, I also create exports of women wrestlers and try to make them as accurate as possible. I guess creating exports is a hobby in itself for me at this point in time.

[snabbit888]

When I've made the old school exports, I've done my best to make them as accurate as possible for those who need their exports to be spot on. But yes, TNM works best as a framework at this point. It takes away a lot of the headache of figuring out contracts, injuries, etc., and puts everything in a neat package.

[mdale2k]

I pretty much agree with what you guys say. I want to start an AWA or old school circuit late 70s early 80s and if i have to make exports I was going to make sure the main moves are in and the rest not worry as much about.

[LillaThrilla]

Jun 22, 2011 8:41:39 GMT -5 JoshiQ said:

But I mostly use TNM to keep things organized at this point. I also use it for the challenge it sometimes gives. I don't watch the matches anymore, I don't remember the last time I did, I don't pay attention to the card rating, I don't look at rankings, and don't ever type my comments into TNM. I use Word and sometimes Excel and a notebook to keep my notes.

I use TNM to organize my roster, decide who I can hire/fire, who quits, who no-shows, match ratings, and to keep track of my contracts. That's about it. It's a great program, but I just don't need all of the stuff it offers anymore. And heck, things like arm wrestling matches, scaffold matches, and other stuff I will use if it's easily found. But if not I can just write it in since I've memorized how TNM prints the resuts of a match.

TNM is a great program, but I mainly use it like dice in a RPG to determine certain random things.

I don't think I ever entered by comments into TNM directly; I always copied the results into a file and edited segments/interviews/etc around them.

It's nice to know I'm not the only one frequently skimming on watching the matches themselves.

[allpowerfulgarth]

You can count me as part of the "doesn't watch the match progression" crowd, so a relatively accurate framework is all I ask -- finisher, stats, no totally-out-of-character moves. But I do usually set TNM to show me the finish, rather than just the results, so I like for the exports to have the signature moves correct as well. I book all the match finishes, so I know how I want a match to end, but sometimes TNM will surprise me with an interesting finish -- e.g., I've booked Wrestler A to get the pin after his signature power bomb, but when I look at the finish of the match, I see that the power bomb was actually a counter to Wrestler B's signature huracanrana -- and I'll alter my planned finish to include the version TNM came up with.

That said, because I'm a perfectionist, if I'm the one creating the export, I will put an excessive amount of work into making it as accurate as possible -- looking up signature moves on Wikipedia, hunting down YouTube videos, etc.

[theimpalertmx]

I think I pretty much feel the same way as most people. As long as the stats are accurate and the move lists are in the ballpark (all signature moves & basic moves that the wrestler is capable of doing) I'm fine. My only problem comes with my move database always getting screwed up. I know we are striving for consistency in that area, but it is just so frustrating to do some cleaning and then taking in one pack that undoes all my work.