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Post by rey619 on Feb 9, 2010 2:20:42 GMT -5
I'm sure this have come up several times on the old boards, but what the heck.
I just had my tag-champ quit after two shows (Taylor Wilde).
I just hired MsChif, had her wrestle a match (lost a 4-way match, didn't eat the pin), and the she quit on me.
Is quitting as seemingly random as hiring? (see Munshun's thread).
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Post by King Munshun on Feb 9, 2010 6:37:50 GMT -5
As mentioned in my earlier thread, I think it has to do with how many wrestlers are already working for you, coupled with their stats. Maybe the way you book a show is also a factor?
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Post by rey619 on Feb 9, 2010 7:36:36 GMT -5
OK, but how does the stats and the way I book a show interact? Would someone with low work-rate and stamina, but high charisma, have a bigger chance of quitting an ROH-type fed with long matches (and nothing but matches), then in a WWE-like fed with a lot of short matches and Interviews?
I can understand size. Maybe it's a percentage when your roster reaches a certain level.
I remember somebody claiming that wrestlers could quit if you didn't use them according to push. Like someone with a push of 100 doing squash jobs, or even the other way around, giving belts to 70-wrestlers. Because they can't handle the pressure.
It would have been great to have Oliver talk a little about this.
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Post by seanh529 on Feb 9, 2010 9:03:49 GMT -5
I've been playing this game a long time and I honestly think it's totally random. I've never booked someone in a negative way who has randomly quit. I've had my world champion quit on me, and I've had total jobbers renew contracts.
I also think it's the same with injuries.
Sean
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Post by snabbit888 on Feb 9, 2010 11:05:02 GMT -5
Oliver never fully explained it, but I think the way you book has some factor on it. How specifically, I do not know. Some wrestlers may not like the style of match you put them in, who they are wrestling against, etc.
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Post by Rick Garrard on Feb 10, 2010 19:47:26 GMT -5
Pretty much the only thing I could ever get him to admit to is that TNM "learns" from how you usually book cards. And from what I can gather this would mean the style of wrestlers and the matches you put them in. As well as other things that I asked about a few years ago. It was one of those, "a ha" moments as to why I could get Don Muraco vs Bam Bam Bigelow to be a 5 star classic in an old circuit.
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Post by jeff the god of biscuits on Feb 11, 2010 19:58:26 GMT -5
I think that its mostly random, but perhaps the booking is a factor. I had Jeff Jarrett come to my WWE circuit a couple of years ago. I booked him into a short, reintroduction feud with Rob Van Dam. The payoff to this feud was a Guitar on a Pole Match (no, Vince Russo was not booking for me) ... I can't remember who won, but not long after that match, Jarrett quit.
At my last TNA PPV, Kenny Doane was my Legends Champion, and booked to defend in a Four Way Ladder Match (an idea I got here) ... he no showed the match, and I couldn't put him back into the match, the way sometimes you can ... after the show, he did not renew his contract. It was bizarre, but it worked out because I usually bury guys who no show title matches for a while.
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Post by LillaThrilla on Feb 14, 2010 17:49:52 GMT -5
I just had a guy in one of my circuits quit effective immediately. He had been given wins over every member of a stable he was feuding with but despite this his heat hadn't gone up.
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Post by BeerGeek on Jun 6, 2010 10:28:13 GMT -5
Another thing too: I think it all depends on if you book or sim your cards and if you use strict pushes but still book your winners (particularly booking someone with a push of say 50 over someone with a push of 100 constantly without thinking of changing their pushes within your circuit. I made that mistake of actually pushing Barry Horowitz as a main eventer in an old circuit yet never changing his push rate in the circuit, and I had both Triple H and Steve Austin quit on me, despite them still being in main event matches.
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Post by ultramagnus on Jun 27, 2010 12:55:54 GMT -5
I've been playing this game a long time and I honestly think it's totally random. I've never booked someone in a negative way who has randomly quit. I've had my world champion quit on me, and I've had total jobbers renew contracts. I also think it's the same with injuries. Sean
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Post by phudjie on Jun 27, 2010 15:20:44 GMT -5
.....I've had pretty good luck with my current circuit - at about 150+ cards and have not had alot of people quit on me, I do group my wrestlers by push (division) so they only face wrestlers at their own level, in the event that one of them needs a squash match or two, they wrestle somebody from a tier below them. I have had very few people quit on me...
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